What was Jamie Grays' line of business?

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she can post what she likes. i know what shes like and ive no doubt she would edit something.. but thats ok i have all pms saved,

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I most certainly will not edit anything. And I have given you no reason to believe I would do any such thing.

I'm finding it difficult to understand why you dont want me to C/P your PM to the forum if you dont feel you were being two faced ?

But I respect your wishes if you would rather I didnt.
 
where have i siad dont post it?

patty your a fruit cake. your going to do what you what to do, and it will be twisted and minipulated to divert attention away from you.

many people have asked you questions. you ignore them and asnswer them with another question.

or you just say what was said in court, to which the entire world has information to.
 
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where have i siad dont post it?

patty your a fruit cake. your going to do what you what to do, and it will be twisted and minipulated to divert attention away from you.

many people have asked you questions. you ignore them and asnswer them with another question.

or you just say what was said in court, to which the entire world has information to.

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You have not said for me not to post it but neither have you given me permission to post it either.

Do you want me to post it or not?
 
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jesus woman, what sort of game are you trying to play!

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I'm not playing any sort of game. Do you want me to post it or not?
 
Sorry but reading that long essay......PADDY TIPPING????
Is that like Cow Tipping but you push over sleeping Irish men in the night??
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If I needed to go to court for any reason, I doubt that I would show everything to someone like Patty first, and then afterwards, what good did it do JG after all!?

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Just to inform you - it was not JG who showed me the evidence.
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Patty, at least three people on this forum know exactly who you are, and therefore what your connection with the 'evidence' is.

I'd shut up now, if I were you.
 
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If I needed to go to court for any reason, I doubt that I would show everything to someone like Patty first, and then afterwards, what good did it do JG after all!?

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Just to inform you - it was not JG who showed me the evidence.
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Patty, at least three people on this forum know exactly who you are, and therefore what your connection with the 'evidence' is.

I'd shut up now, if I were you.

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I have nothing to hide.
 
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I have nothing to hide.

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No, I'm sure you don't. However, the person who allowed you to see evidence prior to its presentation at court may have.
 
Sorry, but I have skipped the last three pages, the arguments are getting rather tedious.

patty, can I just ask, why do you not have your notes? Who has them? and why do you not have your own copies?
 
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If I needed to go to court for any reason, I doubt that I would show everything to someone like Patty first, and then afterwards, what good did it do JG after all!?

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Just to inform you - it was not JG who showed me the evidence.
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Patty, at least three people on this forum know exactly who you are, and therefore what your connection with the 'evidence' is.

I'd shut up now, if I were you.

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I have nothing to hide.

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So why don't you just fess up to what your REAL motives are for defending JG.

I wonder if he would actually be a bit freaked out that some random woman he has never met has taken such an unhealthy obsession in him and his family, and is devoting a whole heap of her free time (and neglecting her husband in the process) to his failed case?

Bit stalkerish / bunny boiler antics to me!
 
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I have no idea if smuggling drugs was a motive in this instance,but your disbelieveing reply makes me wonder what kind of bubble you live in.

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I dont live in a bubble - I live in the real world.

The reason I responded to that ridiclous comment the way I did is because it seems that everyone believes the stories about JG so therefore they cant seem to figure out how he made a living so they came up with that suggestion because it made more sense to them.


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Do you have any perception of the influence and impact drugs have currently in our society??

Massive is the answer!!


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I agree and I am totally anti drugs.

I know of one mother who lost 2 children to drugs. If the oppertunity ever came by for me to shop a dealer then I would grab it with both hands. I dont know the woman very well but I saw the pain in her face when she lost the last child, her only daughter.

There are many victims of drugs and that includes the decent hard working people who are robbed to support a drug addicts habit.
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You imply that the idea is far fetched that people would use animals to smuggle drugs into the country to make a quick buck,get real,people do it all the time.

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I dont disbelieve you. I know there are sickos who would do such things.


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I have no idea if JG was doing this but it doesn't seem that it would be outside of his moral scope from what I have heard about him.Would actually make a lot of sense in regards to the state of the animals and how little he seemed bothered by it.

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And given the horror stories that were given behind the images I should think so too.

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BTW in regards to your comment about shopping a drug dealer,my only advice would be be careful which one you shop or defending JG may be the least of your worries,mind you at least we would get a break from your irrational devotion for a while
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Thanks for the advice but it would bring me great pleasure to shop a drug dealer - I hate drugs and those that push them.

Along with child abuse, animal cruelty, and cruelty to the aged, this is my pet hate - these 4 things make my blood boil. And I would be proud to shop anyone for any of these crimes.

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I really still can't understand your mentality patty,you have to be saying that the RSPCA fabricated an entire case,at massive cost and effort just to get a conviction for JG,WHY??
It makes no sense whatsoever for them to do that,why would they bother??

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No matter what I say it's thrown back in my face so all I can do is suggest you do a little searching for yourself and then come to your own conclusion.


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I suppose it's also a coincidence that he had a previous conviction for animal cruelty??

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Ok, whatever you say. I would not expect you to believe anything I say anyway.

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I suppose that was all lies as well?? I do believe in coincidence,but there is a limit,or at least there is to any rational,logical thinking person.

I can confirm one thing for you anyway,jhoward is most definitely not a child (although she is quite short I'll admit
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Ah right!! Then maybe she suffers from little persons syndrome then.



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I have never found her disrespectful to children either as you mentioned,well not my children anyway,and she has seen them often enough.

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I found her very disrespectful to my child last year when she broadcasted her name and education on this public forum.
 
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I have nothing to hide.

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No, I'm sure you don't. However, the person who allowed you to see evidence prior to its presentation at court may have.

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What in the world would they possibly have to hide?
 
cruelty starvation and a total disrespect for an animals life whether it was to be meat or not.
also a severe lack of dignity for animal kind.
this topic is keeping one poster entertained but what will she do when he's convicted and sentenced.
evidence ??? Ive seen and read enough that's already been released to the public to see quite plainly he's as guilty as hell. hanging would be too good for him.

the shame about it is all of this ranting will never bring back the dead horses.
 
PATTY- I have a question. You have said several times that people have jumped to the wrong conclusions (e.g. drugs)because they cant see how JG made money on the horses. Can you explain how he did make money then?

e.g. JG buys a horse for £1. Costs include travelling it at least once (diesel, lorry tax, lorry plating, driver wages), worming on the lorry (as you have said), Hay (£2.50+ bale, usually horses eat at least 1 bale a day), bedding, hard feed, water, business rates, veterinary treatment (as you have said) one call out & examination is £50+ without treatment, farrier, time/wages....

Even at a purchase price of £1 there is a very tough job to make money on horses that were so thin and ill. So please explain how you think he did make his money?

If, as the photos and videos suggested (you cant deny the horses were thin and ill), he didnt even use much of his hay, bedding, hard feed, sufficient veterinary treatment, etc, it makes it more of a possibility that money could be made by it being a numbers game. e.g 100 horses x £20 profit each compared to 5 horses x £100 profit each. You however deny that he didnt treat the horses badly.

Therefore please explain why you feel those horses were well looked after, as their body condition suggests otherwise, and how JG made money? Thank you, i am genuinely interested in your opinion and am waiting to be educated!
 
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JG buys a horse for £1.

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And Katie Price is having an affair with Spencer Wilton!

I know it is true cos I read it in the Sun!
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JG buys a horse for £1.

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And Katie Price is having an affair with Spencer Wilton!

I know it is true cos I read it in the Sun!
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teddyt did say e.g......for example..
you dont need to read the current bun to understand that, surely?
 
Can you imagine the sun reading this? The next thing will be JG is having an affair with KP!!!! Or KP has turned lesbian and is having an affair with Patty!!!

LOL!!!
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Can you imagine the sun reading this? The next thing will be JG is having an affair with KP!!!! Or KP has turned lesbian and is having an affair with Patty!!!

LOL!!!
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LOVE IT..Mind you not even K.P would go so low
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