Where next for the Bog pony?

[RachelFerd]

Thanks appreciate that. My back up last run would be a 70cm HT pairs with Bear ? it totally depends on how life pans out. We may have until October with this or may not. But *technically* next weekend will be our last though I suspect I’ll get the chance to run in August realistically.

Re jumping discovery’s I’m just a bit worried about how much he’s done. He will have done a camp, then evented 3 weeks on the trot, then a camp, then a 70HT, then a weeks hacking hol away from home. It feels a big ask to throw some mid week BS into the mix?

Although given his manner maybe not ?

It's equall

Yes that is what I am saying. People are telling Michen to COMPETE at disco. Not to school at 110 which of course she should do.

I actually think Michen should ask her trainers really. They know her and the horse and are not in the business of killing off their cliebts. So are best placed to advise on whether/when to step up.

It has always, always, always been the steer that to jump at BE100 you should be able to negotiate a discovery track. And ditto, before moving up to novice, jump round a newcomers. Out eventing it's in a way more critical to get a good SJ feel, as how the SJ goes will play right into the XC. If you have a smooth, confident SJ round you are going into XC on a well prepped horse. If you have a panicky rushing SJ you are going into the XC on a horse who is panicked and rushing. And if you have a sticky and underpowered SJ, you're in the worst situation of trying to go XC on a horse who is already losing its nerve.

When i say 'jump a discovery' that doesn't necessarily have to be at a competition - but if you hire a course, make sure it's genuinely set to discovery heights with square oxers, and warm up and jump it as if you were doing so in competition (no schooling around it lower first). If that's feeling good, then you're ready to move up. And also, to be clear, feeling good can sometimes still be with a pole or two down if you're on a horse that isn't particularly careful over the coloured sticks.

 

[Michen]

It's equall



It has always, always, always been the steer that to jump at BE100 you should be able to negotiate a discovery track. And ditto, before moving up to novice, jump round a newcomers. Out eventing it's in a way more critical to get a good SJ feel, as how the SJ goes will play right into the XC. If you have a smooth, confident SJ round you are going into XC on a well prepped horse. If you have a panicky rushing SJ you are going into the XC on a horse who is panicked and rushing. And if you have a sticky and underpowered SJ, you're in the worst situation of trying to go XC on a horse who is already losing its nerve.

When i say 'jump a discovery' that doesn't necessarily have to be at a competition - but if you hire a course, make sure it's genuinely set to discovery heights with square oxers, and warm up and jump it as if you were doing so in competition (no schooling around it lower first). If that's feeling good, then you're ready to move up. And also, to be clear, feeling good can sometimes still be with a pole or two down if you're on a horse that isn't particularly careful over the coloured sticks.

Cool so that’s what I did but not with as many oxers the other weekend at camp. So I’ll do that again at camp weekend after next and go from there. I’ll let the camp coach know my intentions and what I need to get out of it.

That all makes sense, thanks!

And I agree, I came out of the SJ almost worried about XC but shook the feeling off quickly as he’s never once given me any doubt. But if I’d been about to go XC after that SJ in a 100 it wouldn’t have put me in a good frame of mind.

It’s really hard because with the comments about Bog knowing best on the xc, he generally does! I have got us in to sticky jumps XC where I’ve over ridden or thought something. He has never done that to me XC if I’ve left him alone. I worry if I start to change things I’ll just muck it up for us both. Or maybe it flags im too incompetent a rider to be doing a bigger track!

 

[TheMule]

It's equall



It has always, always, always been the steer that to jump at BE100 you should be able to negotiate a discovery track. And ditto, before moving up to novice, jump round a newcomers. Out eventing it's in a way more critical to get a good SJ feel, as how the SJ goes will play right into the XC. If you have a smooth, confident SJ round you are going into XC on a well prepped horse. If you have a panicky rushing SJ you are going into the XC on a horse who is panicked and rushing. And if you have a sticky and underpowered SJ, you're in the worst situation of trying to go XC on a horse who is already losing its nerve.

When i say 'jump a discovery' that doesn't necessarily have to be at a competition - but if you hire a course, make sure it's genuinely set to discovery heights with square oxers, and warm up and jump it as if you were doing so in competition (no schooling around it lower first). If that's feeling good, then you're ready to move up. And also, to be clear, feeling good can sometimes still be with a pole or two down if you're on a horse that isn't particularly careful over the coloured sticks.

Thank you for saying it so eloquently.

Because the difference is that the next thing you do with the horse is go out the start box and tackle 20 odd solid fences at a height that could legitimately flip you over and kill you. That's why.

 

[FlyingCircus]

Cool so that’s what I did but not with as many oxers the other weekend at camp. So I’ll do that again at camp weekend after next and go from there. I’ll let the camp coach know my intentions and what I need to get out of it.

That all makes sense, thanks!

And I agree, I came out of the SJ almost worried about XC but shook the feeling off quickly as he’s never once given me any doubt. But if I’d been about to go XC after that SJ in a 100 it wouldn’t have put me in a good frame of mind.

It’s really hard because with the comments about Bog knowing best on the xc, he generally does! I have got us in to sticky jumps XC where I’ve over ridden or thought something. He has never done that to me XC if I’ve left him alone. I worry if I start to change things I’ll just muck it up for us both. Or maybe it flags im too incompetent a rider to be doing a bigger track!

I don't think you're incompetent at all, but I do think you doubt your own ability and therefore let him work out the answer himself.

Have you ever done exercises where you have to tell the instructor how you rate your canter? Or how many strides you ARE going to put in between 2 poles?

These are really good exercises for me, as I also forget to actually ride my gelding because I think he knows better than me most of the time too ?

But if I have to say we're going to make 5 strides, then actually do 5 strides, I don't have a choice but to ride it. Likewise with the rating the canter. If I'm not focused on the canter between the jumps, mine can get abit flat and rushy, so if I'm thinking about the canter rather than the jump, I can pay attention to where he is underpowered and running.

This isn't to say we should never leave the horse alone - defo want the horse to be able to do the job himself, but it should be with input from me when I need to give it.

 

[humblepie]

I never nailed the jumping fences at home but jumped and placed up to FoxHunter with an ex racehorse and needed the competition ring to get me in the zone. She did compete a lot as only show jumping so we probably got our eyes in that way. I know that is no help to you but just to say you are not alone.

 

[Michen]

So frustrated with myself! I have a real issue mentally with SJ. Basically if the jump is remotely wrong (either a long one or short) I crumple. It’s different at a comp as I seem to be able to pull my s*** together better but training I just get flustered if it’s not “perfect”. Camp this weekend was mainly great, but one or two “wrong” fences and my confidence crumbles. I don’t think I even jumped higher than 80.


Yet here we are XC schooling (this is the first time in 5 years of Boggle I have ever XC schooled him myself) having a brilliant time over plenty of 100 meaty fences- a first for me! Hopefully no one thinks he looks too wild as he felt great and I did feel him eyeing up the bigger ones a little more, not backing off, but sort of recognising them more than the smaller stuff if that makes sense.

In the mean time I will concentrate on sorting my SJ mental issues out ? why can’t the SJ be solid fences ?

[video]

 

[mavandkaz]

Looking fab!

Can we swap? - I will do your show jumping and you can do my xc.
Give me poles over a solid fence any day!

 

[Michen]

Looking fab!

Can we swap? - I will do your show jumping and you can do my xc.
Give me poles over a solid fence any day!

Yes please ???

 

[RHM]

Oh doesn’t he look fab in that last XC video!

I know exactly what you mean for the SJ warmup. Being in there is hell. I used to just do 2-3 fences and go straight in but have recently changed tact thanks to a bollacking from my instructor ?

Obviously it depends on what you want to work on but my warmup is now really structured, focusing on adjustability and her not ignoring my right leg which she loves to do.

I won’t do more then a couple of mins in trot as this really switches her off. Rather I will do walk to canter transitions, turn on the haunches and leg yields (all off my right leg). Then run her through three different canters.

I then would jump two cross poles, then onto 3-4 verticals. I have straightness issues so I halt 3 strides after each fence then straight back into canter, keeping her on a line. I will jump one oxer off a really forward stride right before I go in as this is what she loves.

My SJ instructor says the min is 6 fences in a warm up to get them really listening.
Unlike literally everyone else I see out competing I jump quite small in the warm up and never bigger than the fences I will face in there. This is for a couple of reasons - stops me getting the willys! Big fences in a class is no issue, big fences in a warm up makes me need the loo! And my horse can knock her confidence if there is a big atmosphere. I want her entering the ring brimming with confidence.

As a final thought, absolutely do not worry about bringing Bog down to a trot if he goes disunited. Much better to keep him balanced then push on to make it smoother. I would drop to trot for a stride then pop back into canter. What helps me SJing is to really focus on rhythm and I often count just as I am going round not just on an approach to the fence.

 

[Michen]

Oh doesn’t he look fab in that last XC video!

I know exactly what you mean for the SJ warmup. Being in there is hell. I used to just do 2-3 fences and go straight in but have recently changed tact thanks to a bollacking from my instructor ?

Obviously it depends on what you want to work on but my warmup is now really structured, focusing on adjustability and her not ignoring my right leg which she loves to do.

I won’t do more then a couple of mins in trot as this really switches her off. Rather I will do walk to canter transitions, turn on the haunches and leg yields (all off my right leg). Then run her through three different canters.

I then would jump two cross poles, then onto 3-4 verticals. I have straightness issues so I halt 3 strides after each fence then straight back into canter, keeping her on a line. I will jump one oxer off a really forward stride right before I go in as this is what she loves.

My SJ instructor says the min is 6 fences in a warm up to get them really listening.
Unlike literally everyone else I see out competing I jump quite small in the warm up and never bigger than the fences I will face in there. This is for a couple of reasons - stops me getting the willys! Big fences in a class is no issue, big fences in a warm up makes me need the loo! And my horse can knock her confidence if there is a big atmosphere. I want her entering the ring brimming with confidence.

As a final thought, absolutely do not worry about bringing Bog down to a trot if he goes disunited. Much better to keep him balanced then push on to make it smoother. I would drop to trot for a stride then pop back into canter. What helps me SJing is to really focus on rhythm and I often count just as I am going round not just on an approach to the fence.

That is such helpful advice thank you! I think the counting would really help (hopefully I can do it in my head).

I have tasked myself that this weekend at Offchurch I will jump 6 fences minimum. 2 x, 2 vertical, 2 over.

I’m going to add another task into that with your three canters!!

 

[RHM]

That is such helpful advice thank you! I think the counting would really help (hopefully I can do it in my head).

I have tasked myself that this weekend at Offchurch I will jump 6 fences minimum. 2 x, 2 vertical, 2 over.

I’m going to add another task into that with your three canters!!

Glad my waffle is helpful! It will no doubt be a process to figure out what works for you but the best thing to do is to have a plan!

 

[Squeak]

Someone on here mentioned once a quote from Geoff Billington - you're never more than half a stride wrong in your take off spot from a fence. That quote combined with a change of trainer who didn't blame the rider for every single knocked pole helped to get rid of my over perfectionism and stress for sj.

It might not work for others but essentially if you think about it logically, at most heights, half a stride really isn't an issue, especially if you have a good canter. It stopped me over analysing and worrying about the take off spot.

Previously I'd had trainers that every single time a pole fell they'd tell me what it was I should have done differently. It created a vicious circle because sometimes you've done everything right and the horse just makes a mistake, sure, you could have ridden it differently to prevent the horse making the mistake but you'd have realistically have had to have seen in to the future and it wouldn't necessarily be correct to ride like that for every fence. Sometimes a horse just knocks a fence because it's a living thinking being and like us, makes a mistake.

 

[Auslander]

He looks like a whole load of fun in the recent video! If that's how he deals with BE100 fences, I take back what I said a few weeks ago!

 

[Michen]

He looks like a whole load of fun in the recent video! If that's how he deals with BE100 fences, I take back what I said a few weeks ago!

Ah thanks! Yes the house thing to the skinny in the woods, and house to water to log after and the palisade thing videod from behind were all 100. Did a few more but not on video. He was super cool and it definitely gave him more to think about.

But I’ll be sticking to a Hunter trial at 100 unless I can sort my SJ out ?

 

[Michen]

Someone on here mentioned once a quote from Geoff Billington - you're never more than half a stride wrong in your take off spot from a fence. That quote combined with a change of trainer who didn't blame the rider for every single knocked pole helped to get rid of my over perfectionism and stress for sj.

It might not work for others but essentially if you think about it logically, at most heights, half a stride really isn't an issue, especially if you have a good canter. It stopped me over analysing and worrying about the take off spot.

Previously I'd had trainers that every single time a pole fell they'd tell me what it was I should have done differently. It created a vicious circle because sometimes you've done everything right and the horse just makes a mistake, sure, you could have ridden it differently to prevent the horse making the mistake but you'd have realistically have had to have seen in to the future and it wouldn't necessarily be correct to ride like that for every fence. Sometimes a horse just knocks a fence because it's a living thinking being and like us, makes a mistake.

That is a very good point. I think I panic about how it “feels”. I hate it feeling awkward or uncomfortable- fear of falling? Which is ridiculous as in 5 years of owning Boggle I’ve only ever come off him jumping twice- once out hunting landing on my feet over a rail and once when he got caught up in a pole and we both fell.

I’m really struggling with getting his canter forward enough that it doesn’t get too fast and flat.

Also struggling with bitting. I swapped him back to a snaffle and micklem this weekend on day 2 as just felt the universal Waterford was pointless as it wasn’t really solving anything. So now he is stronger (he bears down on the bit) and I have to be firmer in my half halts BUT he’s happier in his mouth. It’s really hard to get it right! I know it’s a “schooling” issue but he doesn’t do it schooling! Nor would he do it lobbing quietly over fences at home. It’s only when the atmosphere is up that he gets strong and bears down so I have no idea where to go bit wise with that as the only time I can Re create that is of course at an away from home event with a bit of an atmosphere.

So he bears down, I have to take a big half half to sit him back, then I’ve killed the canter before a fence. Or I don’t take the half halt and we end up in that flat fast canter.

 

[Squeak]

That is a very good point. I think I panic about how it “feels”. I hate it feeling awkward or uncomfortable- fear of falling? Which is ridiculous as in 5 years of owning Boggle I’ve only ever come off him jumping twice- once out hunting landing on my feet over a rail and once when he got caught up in a pole and we both fell.

I’m really struggling with getting his canter forward enough that it doesn’t get too fast and flat.

Also struggling with bitting. I swapped him back to a snaffle and micklem this weekend on day 2 as just felt the universal Waterford was pointless as it wasn’t really solving anything. So now he is stronger (he bears down on the bit) and I have to be firmer in my half halts BUT he’s happier in his mouth. It’s really hard to get it right! I know it’s a “schooling” issue but he doesn’t do it schooling! Nor would he do it lobbing quietly over fences at home. It’s only when the atmosphere is up that he gets strong and bears down so I have no idea where to go bit wise with that as the only time I can Re create that is of course at an away from home event with a bit of an atmosphere.

So he bears down, I have to take a big half half to sit him back, then I’ve killed the canter before a fence. Or I don’t take the half halt and we end up in that flat fast canter.

Have you tried a bit fitter/ consultant? I haven't but it's on my to do list. You never know they might be able to come up with something that helps.

 

[Michen]

Have you tried a bit fitter/ consultant? I haven't but it's on my to do list. You never know they might be able to come up with something that helps.

Nope I haven't bothered as felt it was a problem I couldn't replicate in front of one! Could be worth a shot

 

[Michen]

Spacefaer posting on this thread as quote went to wrong one! x

I have tried all sorts of half halts but I just can't seem to get it right- it's my ineffective riding! At first the universal waterford seemed to work quite well but then he sort of got used to it. I thought a universal on the "snaffle" ring" wasn't much different to a snaffle waterford? Or is it enough to be worth a try?

Aha- so confusing- as got told at camp I'm riding the SJ too dressagy and that the canter may have suffered a bit as I've spent so much time working on shortening it- his dressage has really improved from it.

Totally get what your saying though and I know the canter is there as I've had it before and we've had lovely easy rounds. I think I need to strip it all back- get back in the snaffle and get rid of the grackle, and focus on the riding and rhythm and warm up. It was only this year that I bitted him up, and I only added a grackle as I like it for XC and would generally be in the same bit/bridle for those phases.

I'm unsure whether the bitting is actually irrelevant as what I need to fix is my riding, or whether finding a better bit would actually help!

 

[spacefaer]

QUOTE="Michen, post: 14950371, member: 111431" So he bears down, I have to take a big half half to sit him back, then I’ve killed the canter before a fence. Or I don’t take the half halt and we end up in that flat fast canter.[/QUOTE]

without meaning to be facetious in any way - can you take a smaller half halt- somewhere between a big one and none at all?

And thinking about bitting, there are two obvious steps between a snaffle and a Waterford universal - either a Waterford snaffle, or a plain universal.... Is it worth trying either of those if the current competition bit is too strong ?

For me, SJ is all about the canter and not about the jumps. If you have a good canter - in balance and with the same rhythm throughout the course, the strides are there. If I ride for the stride, it'll rarely be there as the canter will be too inconsistent and I'll have been fiddling.

I count 1-5 in front of every fence - doesn't matter if I get to the fence on 2, I'm not going to hold for the 1 if it's not there, it just means I'm mentally aware of the rhythm and whether it's even or not.

I always remember being told that SJ is closer to dressage than it is to xc. The control and quality of the paces are the same, just with some elevated canter strides (elevated to a height of approx 100cm in your case at the moment!)

 

[spacefaer]

Apologies for posting on the other thread - never managed to do that before!

 

[Michen]

Apologies for posting on the other thread - never managed to do that before!

Haha replied above!

 

[mavandkaz]

I am in no way an experienced eventer, but did in a previous life show jump higher then I do now (1.10-1.20m), and have also picked up some good tips over the years from decent instructors. I don't normally like to interfere/part advice as although my knowledge is sound, putting it into practice since losing confidence is a different matter, so always feel like a bit of an imposter - so take this how you wish!

Counting and the quality of the canter - Sharon Quant was great for this. We spent fair a bit of time working on the different gears and being able to spot them. So my dressage 'working canter' was gear 5, out of 10. I needed to be in gear 8 to jump. During the warm up she would shout numbers and I would have to change the canter to match. I found that so helpful.
The other thing she introduced, and another instructor has also done it, is rather then counting numbers as your cantering say words that match the three beat rhythm - so hers was to say 'monday, Tuesday, Wednesday'. I had always been brought up with the classic count the last three strides, but this really helped not only with the rhythm, but also not focussing on getting the exact right stride. Just riding the canter.

Had an interesting chat with show jump instructor at camp ( who I am now trying to organise lessons with as he's just super) about how he schools all his horses to Advanced Medium level as in order to jump the bigger tracks, that's the level they should be working at (be able to switch between your different canters, flying changes, and the suppleness needed). It's what makes to difference between those who might top out at 1.20/30, with one rider, but gone on to bigger tracks with another. He also says not to change legs through trot if there is not enough time. Ideally land on the correct lead, or flying change, but don't break the rhythm just to get the correct leg - keep them balanced and carry on.
We have also spent time focussing on the canter around the corners, and sitting quietly once straight, rather then focussing on those last few strides.

A bit fitter may be worth a shout, the one I had out was very useful and didn't try the hard sell - admitted that the bit I was using was the best one for the horse.

 

[Michen]

I am in no way an experienced eventer, but did in a previous life show jump higher then I do now (1.10-1.20m), and have also picked up some good tips over the years from decent instructors. I don't normally like to interfere/part advice as although my knowledge is sound, putting it into practice since losing confidence is a different matter, so always feel like a bit of an imposter - so take this how you wish!

Counting and the quality of the canter - Sharon Quant was great for this. We spent fair a bit of time working on the different gears and being able to spot them. So my dressage 'working canter' was gear 5, out of 10. I needed to be in gear 8 to jump. During the warm up she would shout numbers and I would have to change the canter to match. I found that so helpful.
The other thing she introduced, and another instructor has also done it, is rather then counting numbers as your cantering say words that match the three beat rhythm - so hers was to say 'monday, Tuesday, Wednesday'. I had always been brought up with the classic count the last three strides, but this really helped not only with the rhythm, but also not focussing on getting the exact right stride. Just riding the canter.

Had an interesting chat with show jump instructor at camp ( who I am now trying to organise lessons with as he's just super) about how he schools all his horses to Advanced Medium level as in order to jump the bigger tracks, that's the level they should be working at (be able to switch between your different canters, flying changes, and the suppleness needed). It's what makes to difference between those who might top out at 1.20/30, with one rider, but gone on to bigger tracks with another. He also says not to change legs through trot if there is not enough time. Ideally land on the correct lead, or flying change, but don't break the rhythm just to get the correct leg - keep them balanced and carry on.
We have also spent time focussing on the canter around the corners, and sitting quietly once straight, rather then focussing on those last few strides.

A bit fitter may be worth a shout, the one I had out was very useful and didn't try the hard sell - admitted that the bit I was using was the best one for the horse.

The change legs if disunited or wrong thing is the most confusing thing of all! Half say change, half say don't.

I didn't think Sharon would suit Bog as heard she really gets them short and back on their hocks- which is fine- but Bog would struggle with that I think and when I've had instructors do that before it's really knocked my confidence. Always had more success jumping out of a forward rythm especially when physically it's easier for them if they are a bit compromised...

 

[mavandkaz]

The change legs if disunited or wrong thing is the most confusing thing of all!

I didn't think Sharon would suit Bog as heard she really gets them short and back on their hocks- which is fine- but Bog would struggle with that I think and when I've had instructors do that before it's really knocked my confidence. Always had more success jumping out of a forward rythm especially when physically it's easier for them if they are a bit compromised...

I would imagine to jump the bigger, more technical BS tracks that might be the case, but she certainly helped me unlock a bigger more powerful canter. And really brought home the importance of the canter, and that once you have that it doesn't really change as you go up the height.

Historically I'd always been told to change the canter lead. It's only recently that I've heard different. Bog is so balanced in his counter canter I probably wouldn't bother changing, and just keep the rhythm. Disunited is slightly different, and if time I probably would try and change as difficult to stay balanced. At least when on grass, there is often more room so a bit more time to organise?
I suppose ideally you could crack on and work on installing some changes. Luckily sham did it naturally, but even coblet will more often then not do them when asked.

 

[Michen]

I would imagine to jump the bigger, more technical BS tracks that might be the case, but she certainly helped me unlock a bigger more powerful canter. And really brought home the importance of the canter, and that once you have that it doesn't really change as you go up the height.

Historically I'd always been told to change the canter lead. It's only recently that I've heard different. Bog is so balanced in his counter canter I probably wouldn't bother changing, and just keep the rhythm. Disunited is slightly different, and if time I probably would try and change as difficult to stay balanced. At least when on grass, there is often more room so a bit more time to organise?
I suppose ideally you could crack on and work on installing some changes. Luckily sham did it naturally, but even coblet will more often then not do them when asked.

Yep I could give that a go but I just feel I'm on a time limit and by the time I've managed to teach a change we will probably be stateside! Realistically I think I have maybe 3 events left. And I can't get another lesson in with Lizzie until last week in July (Bog will be delighted with that)..it's all coming up very quick.

I think I will just see how Offchurch goes this weekend, do Frickly AFC in August and see where we are at. I just don't want to put a load of pressure on him with tons of training at home to try and tick this box of wanting to do a 100 event, am mindful of his hocks and the number of jumps he has. If I can sort out the Sj at the next event or two then I'd feel happy going out at 100 but if I can't then we will stick to 90 and I'll try and find a 100 HT!

I know that's not a popular school of thought, to XC at 100 if you aren't SJ at 100, but for me it's just so much easier.

 

[mavandkaz]

Completely get not wanting to complicate things when you are working to a deadline.
What happens if you ask for a change?

 

[Michen]

Completely get not wanting to complicate things when you are working to a deadline.
What happens if you ask for a change?

Haha- have only ever asked him over a pole years ago and he'd change in front but not behind

 

[mavandkaz]

Haha- have only ever asked him over a pole years ago and he'd change in front but not behind

Honestly, he's such a clever lad I would be tempted to try it the next time you're in the school. It doesn't need to be technically correct, and most show jumpers change late behind. I wouldn't be surprised if he picks it up within one session.
Then it can just be a case of, if you are mid round and have time/space and you ask for it and he does it - fab.
If he doesn't, just carry on.

It's one of those things that becomes a much bigger thing then it needs to be. Just have a play, and if it doesn't happen it doesn't matter. Just gives you another option.

 

[Michen]

Honestly, he's such a clever lad I would be tempted to try it the next time you're in the school. It doesn't need to be technically correct, and most show jumpers change late behind. I wouldn't be surprised if he picks it up within one session.
Then it can just be a case of, if you are mid round and have time/space and you ask for it and he does it - fab.
If he doesn't, just carry on.

It's one of those things that becomes a much bigger thing then it needs to be. Just have a play, and if it doesn't happen it doesn't matter. Just gives you another option.

Ok I will give it a go!! I do think most of the time he doesn’t bother changing because he finds counter canter easy ?

 

[FlyingCircus]

Much less terrifying than your previous XC vids ? Interesting that your difficulties are with SJ not XC. I wonder if subconsciously you know you need to be more careful SJ, so ride differently