Why does everyone hate coloureds??

I like unusual coloured horses to be honest, have never been drawn to 'dull' solid colours. Each to their own I guess. I like white markings on my horses but some people don't.

My first pomy (on loan) was a chestnut roan, my 2nd pony (first one we actually owned) was a lovely chestnut and white who did everything. I then went more traditional and got a very very nice looking bay (although did have some white marks) but he was/is rather a neurotic soul! Put me off looking for a bay after that. I then got a dun and he's been fab so was looking for another dun after that as the majority seem to have some connie in their breeding and are pretty amenable sorts.

However, I ended up buying another chestnut and white instead. I am definitely more attracted to chestnut and white or dun and whites as far as 'coloureds' go.

I would steer clear of greys as I am far too lazy to clean it all the time and I also am not a fan of cremellos or appaloosas but I think alot of that has to do with their gace and eyes than the colour itself. If a cremello could have brown eyes then I would probably quite like them! :)
 
EKW said:
Every "coloured racehorse" to hit the track has been beaten a country mile. From the bloodlines being used these horses will never be fast enough to even be close to winning races at the moment. To be honest, to get a winning coloured racehorse you may well have to spend years and vast amounts of money producing coloureds that will always produce a coloured (is it hetro or homo zygous?! I can never remember!) and keep putting it to better racehorses, put the coloured offspring to a better again horse and so on and so forth so that in the hope of one day getting something that is able to win a race.

Personally I don't agree with "coloured racehorses" because they are bred for colour and not talent. Plus TB's shouldn't be coloured - they still call black tb's brown!
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Having two copies of the same gene is homozygous (just think about how homosexual = two people of the same sex).

I wonder if the coloured TB's have a better chance of going onto a second career/retraining compared with solid bodied TB's? Maybe there's not enough coloured ones to have good statistics on this?

RE black TB's, they are rare too as agouti is rife in the breed. However I will say well done to Weatherby's for correctly identifying (seal) brown more often than many other PIO's. So many 'dark bays' are really seal brown and I've also seen seal brown called 'black' as they do tend to go very dark in the winter.
 
This is my lad, I love him to bits and think he is totaly gorgeous!!!!
Wouldnt swap him for the world (and you are welcome to try and guess his breeding)

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Oh and when I went looking for a horse I wanted a 14hh non grey connemara. I came home with a 15hh splodgey plaited!
 
conniegirl said:
This is my lad, I love him to bits and think he is totaly gorgeous!!!!
Wouldnt swap him for the world (and you are welcome to try and guess his breeding)
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He reminds me of my guy, which is Connie x WB, but yours has more bone so I'm guessing Connie x ISH? He's very handsome I love the black nose.

Yours looks like Irco Lhee, which is what mine is by, but mine came out marked very differently to his dad
 
Faracat said:
I wonder if the coloured TB's have a better chance of going onto a second career/retraining compared with solid bodied TB's? Maybe there's not enough coloured ones to have good statistics on this?
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Very interesting - I think it would depend on the buyer. After retraining, I can imagine a coloured would sell easier generally, however TB 'people' looking for something off the track would probably go for a more classic looking TB surely...

conniegirl said:
This is my lad, I love him to bits and think he is totaly gorgeous!!!!
Wouldnt swap him for the world (and you are welcome to try and guess his breeding)

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Oh and when I went looking for a horse I wanted a 14hh non grey connemara. I came home with a 15hh splodgey plaited!
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Very pretty!!! Let me guess... some kind of cob x WB?
 
Faracat said:
That's really kind of you. I hope I don't bore anyone though. :o

This is fun to play with. :)
http://www.jenniferhoffman.net/horse/horse-color-genetics.html
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You're never boring and I too really enjoy your posts. Two years ago I struggled with telling bay from black from ginger ( yeah..Ginger lol. I like it as chestnut makes no sense as they're not chestnut coloured lol) I can now identify a whole range of colours courtesy to you sparking my interest in colour genetics. Thank you xx
 
i don't hate coloureds, in fact i think a lot of the look lovely........but i certainly wouldn't want to be the one making sure they looked like coloureds rather than a muddy bay all the time ;)
 
TM - Thank you.

There was a chestnut arab that was a beautiful dark liver chestnut. He was almost conker coloured. I'll try to find a photo.

Here you go - Prince Charmming (yes, with 2 m's).

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He also has a nice liver chestnut son called Vooo Doo, but I can't find a decent photo of him on google that does his colour justice.

I like to call my chestnuts ginger. :D
 
I can't not include my handsome chap in the photo sharing ;)
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IMO he is beautiful ! but interestingly, I hated coloureds for years, and I have no idea why I bought him- was a real spur of the moment thing :o . He is a nightmare to keep clean and has to be clipped or trimmed every week as he is a gypsy cob in disguise (in the winter anyway)- grows a full set of feathers, beard, crazy thick afro mane! his mane in the photos is half hogged and then with another half pulled out !
 
Hoof_Prints said:
I can't not include my handsome chap in the photo sharing ;)
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IMO he is beautiful ! but interestingly, I hated coloureds for years, and I have no idea why I bought him- was a real spur of the moment thing :o . He is a nightmare to keep clean and has to be clipped or trimmed every week as he is a gypsy cob in disguise (in the winter anyway)- grows a full set of feathers, beard, crazy thick afro mane! his mane in the photos is half hogged and then with another half pulled out !
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He's gorgeous!
Wish mine had less white :(
 
Coloured horses of all types seem to be very popular in my area. I've seen a few wanted adverts that just say things like 'coloured horse wanted'.
 
For those of you who say they don't see why you would want something that looks like a cow, There are many breeds of cow that are a solid colour. Some are grey (white), or brown, or black. That doesn't leave many colours for you to choose from for the colour of your horse.
My horses look like horses because that's what they are, HORSES, no matter what mix of colour they are.
 
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I'm just wondering what people who don't like keeping white legs clean think of this horse? As he's a frame rather than a tobiano, you can get base coloured legs (this one has a tiny sock on the OH).

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Faracat said:
I'm just wondering what people who don't like keeping white legs clean think of this horse? As he's a frame rather than a tobiano, you can get base coloured legs (this one has a tiny sock on the OH).

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If that was a breeding animal would it have to be genetically tested for the lethal white gene?
 
We have a coloured ( piebald) gypsy vanner cob and also a cleavland bay and love both don't think anyone hates just of colour just down to personal preference I think such as some prefer fiery TB's some prefer quite cob types lucky both ours are quite ( well as quite as a 2 1/2 yo cob can be lol)
 
doriangrey said:
If that was a breeding animal would it have to be genetically tested for the lethal white gene?
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No need to test, it's a frame, so it has the lethal gene (it's lethal in it's homozygous form IE if the foal has two copies of frame). You shouldn't breed with another frame, but a non-frame is fine.

Ellen-Jay, you need to expand. Why isn't he your cup of tea? Too light in build? You don't like chestnut based colours? You don't like a single white hair anywhere on a horse? Something else?
 
Faracat said:
No need to test, it's a frame, so it has the lethal gene (it's lethal in it's homozygous form IE if the foal has two copies of frame). You shouldn't breed with another frame, but a non-frame is fine.

Ellen-Jay, you need to expand. Why isn't he your cup of tea? Too light in build? You don't like chestnut based colours? You don't like a single white hair anywhere on a horse? Something else?
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Not my sort either - but for me I'm just not into very much white at all, it's too flashy!! You can see my horse in my avatar - that is about as much white as I am comfortable with! My last horse has four white socks and a white star-and-stripe, and I thought he looked too flashy, really.

Something like him is gorgeous, but I wouldn't want!

Speaking of interesting colours, a friend of mine had a gorgeous piebald ISH type - a small hunter type (until she hogged him because she couldn't be bothered plaiting...). He then proceeded over about 8 years to go grey, very slowly, so that he went blue-and-white, roan-and-white, and now just looks a bit greyish in places. Funny, he looked smarter as a piebald, but I'd be more likely to have him as a grey...

I just read my post back and I sound so chrome phobic - I'm not, I promise. If I was looking again I would still look at any colour under the sun... but could I see myself with a palomino, a coloured, a cremello/perlino, or anything else unusual and flashy? Not really. If I bought one I'd very much be buying the horse not it's colour. I would prefer a nice bright/blood bay with as little white as possible, or would push to a mouse dun or something of that ilk.
 
I said on another thread that if I buy again, the horse will have minimal white (grey is fine, just no markings) as although I find white markings very attractive, my boy has suffered all summer with photosensitivity on his three white socks.

Someone on here (sorry, brain like a sieve, so I can't remember who) had a grey and white that only showed his patches when he was washed and you could see the different colours of his skin. At all other times he just looked like a 'white' grey :)
 
Faracat said:
I said on another thread that if I buy again, the horse will have minimal white (grey is fine, just no markings) as although I find white markings very attractive, my boy has suffered all summer with photosensitivity on his three white socks.

Someone on here (sorry, brain like a sieve, so I can't remember who) had a grey and white that only showed his patches when he was washed and you could see the different colours of his skin. At all other times he just looked like a 'white' grey :)
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Tell me about it - my old lad would get mud fever on EVERY foot whenever he was stressed/weather turned. Current one only gets it on the one white sock, but has ended up with what I thought was mud fever and turned out to be photosensitive burns on that foot this summer - and it's gone all proud where it's healing. Horrible.
 
Faracat said:
I'm just wondering what people who don't like keeping white legs clean think of this horse? As he's a frame rather than a tobiano, you can get base coloured legs (this one has a tiny sock on the OH).

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If I could get a chunky cob in this colour I would be in heaven!

I bought a 5yo white pony. When I clipped him I realised he was once upon a time coloured. I just can't get away from coloureds even when I try!
 
My lad is realy easy to keep clean. He has such fine silky hair that it doesnt stain. He gets a wash before a show with baby shampooand a bit of chalk on his legs.
I occassionaly wash hishind legs in winter but since CHAPS champs at the end of august he hasnt had a bath and he looks absolutly fine, he is a mud monster but if it is left to dry and then brushed out he goes back to sparkley white splodges!
His tail is the worst bit but as soon asmy new one arrives it will be going in a waterproof tail bag so it cant get mucky over winter.
 
khalswitz said:
Tell me about it - my old lad would get mud fever on EVERY foot whenever he was stressed/weather turned. Current one only gets it on the one white sock, but has ended up with what I thought was mud fever and turned out to be photosensitive burns on that foot this summer - and it's gone all proud where it's healing. Horrible.
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I plan to buy lots of high factor suncream when I see it being sold off at 'out of season' prices, so I'm all prepared next summer.
 
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