Why does everyone hate coloureds??

Ive never liked coloureds and was most dissapointed when I went viewing a horse that I had discussed with someone in a pub to find out she was a chunky, 4yo Irish piebald. Needless to say the moment I sat on her I knew I wanted her and the rest they say is history! She realised my dreams of doing byeh classes at bramham, got me back BE eventing, got our first ever photos in H&H, had our first ever wins at BE the list goes on :) shes had to have some time off due to an injury this year but I certainly know she will do her upmost to be back at it all again. Needless to say she is very very special to me.

That said, I wouldnt go out of my way to purposely buy a coloured horse again!
 
In answer to the question why do they hate colours?

I don't think they do, every man and his dog seems to have one nowadays ;)

40 years ago, as a child, coloureds were tinkers horses, hairy things that pulled carts, nothing wrong with that, but that was just how it was back then.

Same as everything, personal preference, it's the marmite thing all over again.

I wouldn't have any number of breeds or types of horse, not because I hate them (I am way too idle to hate anything me) but because they aren't what I like, or am capable of riding.

I breed Paints, but only for Overo, I don't particularly like Tobianos (which is what the majority of British coloureds are) purely because I don't care for the patterning, not because it makes any difference to the horse inside the coat.
 
I absolutely did not want a coloured horse as I had a bad experience with one as a teenager. It bucked, reared and bolted. So when I was looking for a horse I wanted a native (pref New Forest or Connie) bay mare. I did not want a coloured horse. So what did I end up with? A bay/white Irish Sports Horse. Well, she is a mare and she is 50% bay and 50% native and oh so pretty!
 
I like coloureds, obviously! I trialled a warmblood skewbald, loved how he looked but he had zero manners, tried a little chestnut pony, really dislike chestnuts, dunno why and when the guy said he couldn't catch the coloured, my ears pricked up! Look: he matches my dogs! :biggrin3:
 
Wasn't aware I hated coloureds - used to own one!!

Given a choice I prefer solid (non-grey) horses, mostly because they show less mud/dirt. Also the coloured I owned had real problems with mud fever and sunburn - so poor horse uncomfortable in both winter and summer!! The biggest problem with coloured horses is that people only look at the colour and not the conformation. With my coloured mare 90% of people asked me to breed from her - she was stunning to look at, chestnut and white with a white mane and tail - but the conformation was terrible - long backed and cow hocked.
 
alliersv1 said:
I never wanted a coloured, or a cob, but fell in love with the chap in my avatar as soon as I rode him. He has too much white, but has, I believe a gorgeous head, is very nicely put together, and I love the bones of him. What anyone else thinks is by the by to me :)
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Even though he was a naughty pony yesterday?! :biggrin3:
 
My sister and i's field is full of all sorts of colours, black, bright bay, grey, dark bay and 2 coloureds. We've had ginger,coloured and a lovely blanket spot appy cob and a haffy in the past though!

Latest arrival we werent even looking for a new pony...but his face called to us both and he was home within 3 days of seeing his advert...thankful clearly a few people would have looked straight past him!

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i love coloureds but i have to say mine is mainly black with white even markings. i hate odd socks lol. but you can imagine my horror when my other half bought home a cremello. she is stunning in colour but her eyes are awful lol
 
i LOVE coloureds and sorely miss my coloured cob. horse hunting next year and i would say the horse being coloured is almost on the 'must' list! seems though finding a coloured from the 16.3hh mark is going to be a challenge! not keen when they are mainly white as it looks like a half hearted attempt at being a coloured!
 
Personally I wouldn't have a coloured. I think they are lovely, and a stunning moving skewbald WB is one of the most beautiful things to look at (a friend has one and I DROOL), but having seen my sister with her piebald, I love that I don't even have to a full groom on my bay for him to look fine, and I almost never have to bath for a show, and certainly I've never bathed more than legs, mane and tail ever on my current one!

I also think you have to have confidence to ride in on a coloured. They are eye-catching, and I'm not someone who likes everyone looking at me... I have my bay, with white star and one sock, which is almost indistinguishable from everyone else's bays... and therefore I can pretend to be someone else at a distance in photos as no one will know. That one in the background that's bronking? No, it's someone else's bay.

Then, I like my TB types rather than cobs, and you don't get coloured TBs... so may be part of why I just don't see myself on a coloured. However I wouldn't say no to one if it fitted the bill and I liked it, I just don't see myself WITH one. Have ridden some lovely ones in the past, but I love my bays!!
 
Achinghips said:
In my element with this thread, what a stunning load of horses ! Ecstatic !
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Definately same here!!! :D

As I said before I adore my lad so it doesn't really bother if everyone else thinks he is pig ugly lol BUT I do find it disappointing when people just dismiss him because of his colour (if that makes sense) rather than seeing the horse inside the colour.
 
What a strange post - surely it's a matter of taste. I ride an Arabian and that's like me whinging about people bleating on about Mad Arabs !

Do I like coloured horses - personally I don't really care what colour a horse is, but I have some serious likes/dislikes when it comes to movement, temperament and conformation. However it seems that coloured horses are so often "sold" on just that and everything else comes a distant second.

Like how do you judge a pinto? It's just a colour.
 
Sophstar said:
seems though finding a coloured from the 16.3hh mark is going to be a challenge! not keen when they are mainly white as it looks like a half hearted attempt at being a coloured!
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Its not hard around me, my coloured is 17h and has good breeding! There are quite a few large coloured ISH around me, the coloured stallion is 16.3 and i do know of a very nice 4 year old for sale ;)
 
tiga71 said:
Thanks but actually he is a gelding. He came with the name Izzy even though it is a girl's name - no idea why! He was a big fat lump when I first got him but he is fab now.

Thanks for the other nice comments but I don't know how to multi quote.
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Apologies! It was the name that threw me. Gorgeous either way though!

DanceswithCows said:
Doesn't that picture of Izzy just sum up what riding should be about? love it
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Absolutely! :D

cinnamontoast said:
Even though he was a naughty pony yesterday?! :biggrin3:
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Yes! I actually have a bit of whiplash from that. Blo0dy idiot!
Revenge will be mine on Monday though...vet visit...booster, teeth float and sheath cleaning. I'll make sure the water's nice and icy ;)
 
khalswitz said:
Then, I like my TB types rather than cobs, and you don't get coloured TBs... so may be part of why I just don't see myself on a coloured.
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Yes, you can... they're just rare. http://www.whitehorseproductions.com/pintotbs.html

ETA - don't forget that our definition of a 'coloured' is arbitrary. White markings on the face an legs only, and it's not coloured, but if the white goes onto the body, it is. All horses with white markings (even a tiny star) carry a 'coloured/pinto' gene.
 
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Faracat said:
Yes, you can... they're just rare. http://www.whitehorseproductions.com/pintotbs.html
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Sorry, my bad - but isn't it in the breed description that they are solid coloured?

Hang on, just did my research: American and Australian restoration authorities don't allow coloured TBs to be registered, the UK does.

https://www.registry.jockeyclub.com...ifyThoroughbred&CFID=7216657&CFTOKEN=94423595

http://www.studbook.org.au/DisplayPDF.aspx?ty=VET

http://www.weatherbys.co.uk/sites/default/files/Identification of Horses Booklet.pdf
 
Breed standards RE colour can be farcical. EG Connemaras have the cream gene, but double dilutes aren't an allowed colour and they still haven't sorted out the dun/buckskin thing.

Arabs have to have black skin, so maximum sabinos aren't allowed (sabino is very common, so a maximum turns up every nown and again).

Then you have sabino causing trouble with shires too, as it can give a roany look to the coat (AKA Blagdon), but that isn't allowed, so they register it as grey, even though there is no grey gene involved.
 
I don't mind coloureds, mother bought a skewbald shettie colt foal a month ago, but they have to be well marked, have dark heads, be more of the colour than the white and not have the white rim round their eyes or have blue eyes. I am very picky when it comes to markings but I don't mind what style they are - heavy feathery things down to fine dainty things so long as they are pleasing to my eye.
 
Faracat said:
Yes, you can... they're just rare. http://www.whitehorseproductions.com/pintotbs.html

ETA - don't forget that our definition of a 'coloured' is arbitrary. White markings on the face an legs only, and it's not coloured, but if the white goes onto the body, it is. All horses with white markings (even a tiny star) carry a 'coloured/pinto' gene.
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The Angrove stud in North Yorkshire specialises in coloured racehorses. I don't really understand breeding or colour genetics in any great depth but as far as breeding good strong TBs for racing is concerned I would question a stud who places such an emphasis on colour.
http://www.angrovestud.com/for-sale.html
 
Faracat said:
Breed standards RE colour can be farcical. EG Connemaras have the cream gene, but double dilutes aren't an allowed colour and they still haven't sorted out the dun/buckskin thing.

Arabs have to have black skin, so maximum sabinos aren't allowed (sabino is very common, so a maximum turns up every nown and again).

Then you have sabino causing trouble with shires too, as it can give a roany look to the coat (AKA Blagdon), but that isn't allowed, so they register it as grey, even though there is no grey gene involved.
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I totally agree breed standards are daft sometimes. But then, with some of them it is because the colour wasn't part of the breed genetics - look at Highlands, they aren't allowed any white markings at all, and are mainly dun, grey or black - you don't even see many bays or chestnuts.

However, I'll say I'm biased and that a coloured TB like on that link just doesn't look right!! Even the dominant whites look weird... I'll keep my boring, classic bay :)
 
RunToEarth said:
The Angrove stud in North Yorkshire specialises in coloured racehorses. I don't really understand breeding or colour genetics in any great depth but as far as breeding good strong TBs for racing is concerned I would question a stud who places such an emphasis on colour.
http://www.angrovestud.com/for-sale.html
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Yeah, that seems a bit of a wrong focus... but hey, if they win, then they win... at least with racehorses it's a case of they win or they don't, and their value will hinge on that...
 
I don't mind coloureds. When looking for a horse I wouldn't discount a coloured. But it would entirely depend on the markings. As don't like a stupid amount of white. I always wanted a black horse still yet to get one lol. I have had a Coloured. A bay who was not boring was a nice dark bay with dapples. Had a grey never again. And in less than two weeks I have a new one who's a chestnut. Always wanted a chestnut :)
 
khalswitz said:
Yeah, that seems a bit of a wrong focus... but hey, if they win, then they win... at least with racehorses it's a case of they win or they don't, and their value will hinge on that...
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Every "coloured racehorse" to hit the track has been beaten a country mile. From the bloodlines being used these horses will never be fast enough to even be close to winning races at the moment. To be honest, to get a winning coloured racehorse you may well have to spend years and vast amounts of money producing coloureds that will always produce a coloured (is it hetro or homo zygous?! I can never remember!) and keep putting it to better racehorses, put the coloured offspring to a better again horse and so on and so forth so that in the hope of one day getting something that is able to win a race.

Personally I don't agree with "coloured racehorses" because they are bred for colour and not talent. Plus TB's shouldn't be coloured - they still call black tb's brown!
 
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I like all colours, I think!

But I really don't like the "cow" comment. At my old yard, we had brown, chestnut, dun, black, white and black and white! (or whatever the technical terms are)

Personally, my favourite colour on both horse and cow is Dun!
 
EKW said:
Every "coloured racehorse" to hit the track has been beaten a country mile. From the bloodlines being used these horses will never be fast enough to even be close to winning races at the moment. To be honest, to get a winning coloured racehorse you may well have to spend years and vast amounts of money producing coloureds that will always produce a coloured (is it hetro or homo zygous?! I can never remember!) and keep putting it to better racehorses, put the coloured offspring to a better again horse and so on and so forth so that in the hope of one day getting something that is able to win a race.

Personally I don't agree with "coloured racehorses" because they are bred for colour and not talent. Plus TB's shouldn't be coloured - they still call black tb's brown!
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Says a lot, doesn't it. But, if they never win, they'll never catch on in racing. Thankfully racing is an industry where talent is prized above all others, and it is so easily measurable.
 
Rose Folly said:
I don't hate 'coloureds'. But I hate the terminology. Things have changed over the years. "When I was a gal" you had skewbalds, piebalds, strawberry roans, blue roans, paints (very rare in the 1950s) and duns. That was pretty much it. And as I remember it from my showing days (when it was almost impossible to get a skewbald pony, as I had, into the top 3 places), the colouring had to be very defined, and there had to be more of the colour than the white.

What we called coloured, or 'gipsy colours' were the wishy-washy vanner colours of which you see so many today. I know they are very popular now, and the steeds that bear those colours are in many cases salt of the earth, but I still look yearningly after the occasional true piebald or skewbald with big patches of black or brown, almost like continents of the world, on them.
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I wanted to say I agree with this too! Though I grew up in the US so was not exposed to gipsy colours until much later on in the late 90s when my daughter first got into ponies. My mare is an old fashioned piebald, I like that about her
 
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