Yet another delightful rider..... not..... when will this end?

During my early days in equestrianism, UK society very much reflected the 'BHS way' which was solid IMHO. Now the BHS is reflecting what passes for equestrianism in todays society. Probably in an attempt to remain relevant and solvent.
Time to remind them of their mission statement
..... Our vision is for every horse to be respected, protected and enjoyed by knowledgeable, caring people...
 
Fellewell said:
During my early days in equestrianism, UK society very much reflected the 'BHS way' which was solid IMHO. Now the BHS is reflecting what passes for equestrianism in todays society. Probably in an attempt to remain relevant and solvent.
Time to remind them of their mission statement
..... Our vision is for every horse to be respected, protected and enjoyed by knowledgeable, caring people...
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Totally agree with this.
It has really lost its way lately. I cancelled my membership a few years ago. I think lots of people just had it for the insurance anyway.
 
Re the BHS reply to Catembi which I suppose is going out to everyone, an approach back would be to ask in general where exactly their boundaries lie and what levels of sanctions they might consider using and precisely what sanctions they have utilised in the past.
 
anguscat said:
Re the BHS reply to Catembi which I suppose is going out to everyone, an approach back would be to ask in general where exactly their boundaries lie and what levels of sanctions they might consider using and precisely what sanctions they have utilised in the past.
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You cant reply to the email.
 
As a video exists it might now be time to send it to the Daily Mail and/or Daily Express (Both can be good at picking up stuff like this - they featured heavily both the CDJ and Mark Todd incidents). It can be shown that people have contacted the BHS and they have not responded with positive and visible action and have also blocked replies to their responses.

Please can someone repost the link to the original video and I will email WHW. I can't remember if it was originally on Facebook. If it was then I cannot access it as I'm not on Facebook so perhaps someone else can forward to WHW.
 
It seems that even though you get a ‘could not deliver’ message if you reply, they do get the response anyway as they’ve just replied back. Completely empty response of course.
 
I am a member for third party liability only, so I’m not specifically in an insurance contract with them. Can I just cancel it with immediate effect and join a rival such as WHW or Harry Hall?
 
hi

well i got the same, and have emailed stating that I do not consider the matter closed in the slightest and what action have they actually taken.

I find it even more disturbing that they have sent me their BHS standard, of which the person involved has failed to comply with, so how is that supposed to help.

The pressure has to be kept up, then perhaps they may listen to the small people the members
 
Ifmpw said:
hi

well i got the same, and have emailed stating that I do not consider the matter closed in the slightest and what action have they actually taken.

I find it even more disturbing that they have sent me their BHS standard, of which the person involved has failed to comply with, so how is that supposed to help.

The pressure has to be kept up, then perhaps they may listen to the small people the members
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You could always submit a freedom of information request regarding the action taken.
 
Widgeon said:
I'm just thinking this over and I agree with the poster earlier who said it looks like she is losing her temper with the horse. I DO know that feeling, but on the rare occasion that it happens, I tend to just give up on whatever it was I was trying to achieve, end on a good note, and come back later when I've had time to think it through (and had a little scream of frustration by myself). I reckon most of us probably take a similar approach. However when producing the horse to do X Y Z is your job and livelihood, rather than just a hobby, it must be that much harder to just walk away. That isn't an excuse but I suppose I am actually starting to question the ethics of a system where the end goal is to get a horse to do X Y Z (whatever that might be).

I'm not sure a system in which money, reputation, and the ability to pay the bills, all rest on getting a horse to perform competitively, is one that sets trainers up to win. And the end result of that is that the horses bear the brunt of trainers' fear / frustration / worry etc. I really doubt that all these people go into horse sport because they love abusing horses - I think it's more likely that they're spectacularly failing (over time) to stand up to the pressure of the system they're working within. That doesn't excuse any one person's behaviour in the slightest, but I do think it raises a big question about whether the way horse sport operates is in fact ethical. And that's a much bigger and less clear-cut question that whether a woman beating up a horse is acceptable (because clearly it's not).

I hope that makes some kind of sense.
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I've seen dairy cows have the crap beaten out of them. Typically when they're young and still learning and not compliant or sore and kicking the milking machine off. Farmers who are short on time, exhausted, stressed about money, impatient, bad tempered, abusive etc. Animals then bear the brunt of it. It's harrowing and goes on behind closed doors largely. They do it because animals can't speak and can't tell anyone.
 
Nocturnal said:
Looks like Anna Hilton has been removed from the BHS website as a coach. Public statement from
BHS is still obscure, but seems like her accreditation has been rescinded.
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Would you kindly post the statement as it's too obscure for me to find on the website or fb page, thanks.
 
Just catching up on this.

To be fair to the BHS that is the kind of statement any company would put out investigating an employee. Bland and non specific until they've looked into the incident.

Hopefully though they will put out something more substantial in due course. I also hope trainers who act like this begin to realise it's career ending if caught on camera - so they stop.
 
SEL said:
Just catching up on this.

To be fair to the BHS that is the kind of statement any company would put out investigating an employee. Bland and non specific until they've looked into the incident.

Hopefully though they will put out something more substantial in due course. I also hope trainers who act like this begin to realise it's career ending if caught on camera - so they stop.
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I do agree, but I think it's about more than that though, it's about getting anyone with horses to become constantly consciously aware of what they're doing, especially in moments of irritation or rage or any other heightened, compromising emotion.
 
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