Yet another delightful rider..... not..... when will this end?

Janique said:
Ok but what's the piece of metal nearly touching his tongue ?

Maybe, i am wrong but it looks like holding the tongue down ?
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It isn't - look at the right rein, it's the offside bit shank at a different angle (identical shape to the near side) on the outside of the mouth looking like it is pressing on the tongue
 
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Janique said:
Ok but what's the piece of metal nearly touching his tongue ?

Maybe, i am wrong but it looks like holding the tongue down ?
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Now I don't know what it is really, but if its not a double bit arrangement could it be a tongue layer

Cause the horse is making a fair attempt at getting its tongue over the bit
The more visible bit piece is a snaffle bradoon thing
 
tristars said:
Now I don't know what it is really, but if its not a double bit arrangement could it be a tongue layer

Cause the horse is making a fair attempt at getting its tongue over the bit
The more visible bit piece is a snaffle bradoon thing
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why wouldn't it be a double bit arrangement, when all cavalry horses wear the same thing! They don't wear any sort of 'tongue layer'
 
ester said:
its just a bradoon and weymouth. . .

I'm sure they'd like to know their leatherwork is shoddy too.
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You see those wrinkles on the cheek pieces they are sign of lower grade leather,

If you are sure they would like to know please contact them

Many bits can have a tongue layer, some are bespoke

Nowhere did say it was, purely speculating

As the owner of two saddlery shops I do have a small experience

And everyone knows they use a double bridle with a bradoon and Weymouth cos that's what a double bridle is for

So bored.....nite nite
 
Janique said:
This photo was posted by Riverside Farm Stables, they are active in horses welfare.

It's taken from the King's horse court. I have never seen anything this bad tbh 🤬
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The shanks either side of the mouth swivel independently, so I'm guessing the rider has taken up the left rein to ask the horse to bring it's head back around to the front, causing the shank closest to us to swivel back.
The shank on the right side is not being acted upon by the rein, so is just sitting.

Here, I drew over the image if that helps visualize it:
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smolmaus said:
We all are already. That's just how society works. We are judged by our actions, sometimes our opinions, and nobody is owed forgiveness. Forgiveness is given.

She isn't a run of the mill horse person who has whacked a horse in a moment of fear or temper, I'll freely admit to having done that. If anybody judges me for it, they can't be harder on me than I was on myself, but they are fully entitled to have that affect their opinion of me forever. I'm not earning money from sponsorships though, which inherently comes with a certain status and influence. I'm not coaching. I'm not representing my country or being held up as a role model so it is different and the standard for behaviour has to be higher.
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This exactly! Well said.

Slightly off topic, but your post made me want to articulate my concern! I’ve recently started to think how are big equestrian brands able to sponsor huge equine events and also sponsor some of the riders who participate? How is that fair…. For example I won’t name the brand but they sponsor riders, and influences who model their clothes, the horses wear their gear, it’s all over the internet looking really glossy and lovely (I love shopping the brands) but then their sponsored riders go into a show / dressage / showjumping ring which is sponsored by their sponsor…. I’m not sure I’m comfortable with it.

Also these brands sponsor famous owners who then gift their horses to the likes of CDJ to compete, so although the brand is not publicly supporting CDJ they definitely are and it’s there for us all to see…. It’s a mirky world…
 
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Nasicus said:
The shanks either side of the mouth swivel independently, so I'm guessing the rider has taken up the left rein to ask the horse to bring it's head back around to the front, causing the shank closest to us to swivel back.
The shank on the right side is not being acted upon by the rein, so is just sitting.

Here, I drew over the image if that helps visualize it:
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Thanks for the effort! An awful lot of speculating going on with absolutely no evidence when there’s a ruddy great photo of what every single cavalry horse wears, they don’t do individual 😅

Im not sure they swivel or if it’s just got wonky though pulling the left rein only as that would make the curb action different
 
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