I’ve had Irish Wolfhounds for many years, and that is the first time I’ve ever heard of one biting someone, which just goes to prove that all dogs can be unpredictable. They have been bred, because of their size, to have laidback temperaments: imagine if they had the propensity to be aggressive?
There are concerns that the restrictions on exercise will increase dog attacks in the home and when dogs escape from the home
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I believe they were due to announce the recomendations in full by the end of the year. In essece the xl ban sidetracked all of that. Most of the dcc members are opposed to bsl and have withdrawn there support and cooperation from defra/goverment. Its possible they wil simply wait to the inevitable disasterous outcomes of the xl ban and then when whatever goverment is in power is desperate for a solution they will come forward. Of course it maybe too late and everyone will knwo the law on dogs cant be enforced and they will simply ignore any education or legislative changes.
I beleive 50 people a year are killed by dogs in the states. I expect because of the different political and social structure of the states its less noted. You of course have a very varied culture in the states re animals. In some area you are not supposed to use the term owner and say guardian instead in other areas you have the big lick horses.There does seem to be something particular about the UK context though. Or maybe even just England. Lots of people (lacking dog sense), lots of dogs, lack of space, lack of respect for others including dogs? I hear people saying they're scared of dogs and want muzzling etc and get it. I avoid strange dogs a lot too. At the same time, it just seems a sticking plaster for a wider issue of breeding and management and lifestyle choices. Honestly, this whole thread just makes me sad because dogs can and do bring so much joy and enrichment to both adults and (dare I say it
And their genetic predisposition? Their historic raison d’etre?
You have some supremely wonky reasoning going on there.....
The kimbo stuff is largely inflated by the media. Many dogs are the result of close line breeding (brother sister mating) occasionally popular sire syndrone results in a particular behaviour pattern appearing in a breed, there was a popular gsd stud in the 80s that produced very guardy pups that were too much for most owners. It was then bred away from. Even if Kimbo did produce a line of difficult dogs he is not a influencial dog in uk xl lines. In truth many xls are xl crosses as that was cheaper and you still got big money for pups.
Except you have removed the choice from them to walk there under control none aggressive dog in the way they wish cause it makes you feel more comfortable. You may say them walking the dog how they wish interfers with you use of public space but all use of pulic space involves comprimise
Agree but you will have 2 sides of the coin, 1 person who got an xl to breed it and make money back and now has no interest in the dog cause the cost of living had messed that up so they hang onto the dog until things get better.
There have been numerous attempts to remove or redesign the dda since it was introduced. Makority of these have been championed by these organisations. The 2018 efra meeting on dangerous dogs for example incuded extensive discussion of the failings of the act.
There is a major flaw in your argument: the labrador, newfoundland, whatever, was never bred for specifically being an aggressive, gripping, fighting dog. The "Kimbo stuff" is quite well researched, actually, as is the fact that american bull breeds are responsible for the majority of dog-on-dog attacks in the UK (and US), despite being a much smaller proportion of the breeds represented, and a high percentage of attacks and fatalities on people.
irish wofhounds were originally war dogs and meant to be as good as 2 soliders in battle. Supposedly the breed went extinct and moderns iw are a recreation based on crossing danes/deerhounds/mastiffs. Mastiffs typically used as guard dogs throughout history. Yet iw are considered gentle giants but have bitten people as discussed in the past few pages. Is that cause they have mastiff in them?
Pits werent really guard breeds. Hog hunting and dog fighting but not much as guards.
Im simply using them as a comparision if i was on a farming page I wud use cattle as the example. The stats of cattle based deaths r highther than horses and dogs yet it cud be argued the average person has even less contact with cattle than horses.
Sure. But that is exactly my point. You can't separate these dogs from their breeding history, is what I'm trying to say. Or lump them in with other large breeds bred for other purposes just because they are also big dogs.
