Another fatal dog attack

[Clodagh]

The thing is that it seems to be hard for people to be "real" with themselves about the type of dog they they need and can actually manage and care for.

There are other breeds that I admire, but know they wouldn't be suitable. So I don't have one.

The thing is that I have land, a large fenced space, own my home, have some small livestock, and also live rural adjacent to a large nature preserve with trails, plus have experience with the 2 breeds I have and socialize them. I'd be an absolute idiot to have either of these 2 dogs in a flat in the city, or in an instance where I couldn't devote the time for training and exercise.

People don't think about these things sometimes.

Absolutely right, even on a much easier breed. I have 5 working bred Labradors. Two are nice and easy. The other 3 are red type pedigree right through and if I didn’t work them would honestly be hard to live with. They will be hard to live with come Feb 2nd tbh! They probably wouldn’t rush off and kill anyone, but noisy and destructive would certainly be possible.
If I lived less rurally, was not into training so much and wanted an easy life I’d get a nice, well bred but quieter type.

 

[Clodagh]

I don't know that anyone on here has a XL Bully, because as mentioned, no one has come forward.

I've been told that I have a similar dog, alike dog, or "type" of dog, I can't recall the exact verbiage. So I'm probably the main degenerate here.

That was me… anything that I get in my fb reels being used for bite work with no ears I tend to group together. I do know I shouldn’t. My farrier had a CC X GSD. She was lovely, well socialised but I would not have crossed her, or gone near his van.

 

[CanteringCarrot]

Absolutely right, even on a much easier breed. I have 5 working bred Labradors. Two are nice and easy. The other 3 are red type pedigree right through and if I didn’t work them would honestly be hard to live with. They will be hard to live with come Feb 2nd tbh! They probably wouldn’t rush off and kill anyone, but noisy and destructive would certainly be possible.
If I lived less rurally, was not into training so much and wanted an easy life I’d get a nice, well bred but quieter type.

Yeah, I've had 3 Labs. The 1st one had borderline psychotic energy and drive, the second one was an absolute gem and on the calm side, but very intelligent. The current one is in the middle of those 2. In each circumstance we've had large gardens, trained the dogs (also went to trainers with them), and exercised them often in various settings. The dogs fit our lifestyle and that's why we got them.

 

[skinnydipper]

I don't know that anyone on here has a XL Bully, because as mentioned, no one has come forward.

I've been told that I have a similar dog, alike dog, or "type" of dog, I can't recall the exact verbiage. So I'm probably the main degenerate here.

Well, the big girl isn't a bull breed but she is big and according to folk on here should not be owned by a small senior person - that's me

 

[bonny]

Well, the big girl isn't a bull breed but she is big and according to folk on here should not be owned by a small senior person - that's me

I never pictured you as a small, senior person ……is that true ?

 

[CanteringCarrot]

That was me… anything that I get in my fb reels being used for bite work with no ears I tend to group together. I do know I shouldn’t. My farrier had a CC X GSD. She was lovely, well socialised but I would not have crossed her, or gone near his van.

Ah yeah, it was you.

I totally understand the CC not being everyone's cup of tea, and they are not for everyone. I can also understand someone being uncomfortable in the presence of one. I would not want everyone to own one, that's for sure!

Plus, there is some variance in the breed when it comes to size and shape, so honestly, some look sort of bully.

Unfortunately, ear cropping is present in multiple breeds and types. I absolutely do not support those that show the CC in the US where the show ring standard is ears cropped.

 

[skinnydipper]

I never pictured you as a small, senior person ……is that true ?

Yep.

 

[CanteringCarrot]

Well, the big girl isn't a bull breed but she is big and according to folk on here should not be owned by a small senior person - that's me

We'll be at your house shortly with pitchforks and flames to banish you from civilization.

 

[TheresaW]

We have a collie (failed worker) who we got when he was about 4. 2 huskies and a Malamute. One husky and the mal are rescues. The mal is 11 now, we’ve had him about 8 months. I don’t think we’d get another, although he’ll be here til the end.

We had owned collies before, one husky we got as a pup. We did a lot of research before getting her. I would love a collie pup, but definitely not something I would consider whilst working full time.

 

[TheresaW]

Yep.

I had you in your 30’s!

 

[twiggy2]

20 kg, that includes Maz, not sure she is very scary

 

[fankino04]

We have a collie (failed worker) who we got when he was about 4. 2 huskies and a Malamute. One husky and the mal are rescues. The mal is 11 now, we’ve had him about 8 months. I don’t think we’d get another, although he’ll be here til the end.

We had owned collies before, one husky we got as a pup. We did a lot of research before getting her. I would love a collie pup, but definitely not something I would consider whilst working full time.

Out of curiosity why would you not have another malamute? My 3 were all by far easier than the husky we fostered or the 2 that I walked, they were also much easier than the collie that I walk although there are probably much easier collies too x

 

[druid]

Lots of us have dogs that would be horrendous in other homes. My spaniels would make absolutely crap pets. They need a job and being allowed chase the local wildlife round the woods and fields like I see so often isn't a job. Nor is obsessive tennis ball chasing.

The difference is that they're unlikely to kill someone in the wrong hands despite being a breed with a high bite/resource guarding rate when handled poorly.

 

[TheresaW]

Out of curiosity why would you not have another malamute? My 3 were all by far easier than the husky we fostered or the 2 that I walked, they were also much easier than the collie that I walk although there are probably much easier collies too x

Most of it is probably partly due to his background, which we are unsure of, getting him as an older dog. He was picked up as a stray, with a massive tumour. He is other dog agressive, and possibly just very set in his ways.

I won’t say never again really, but he’s nowhere near as easy as the other 3.

 

[fankino04]

Most of it is probably partly due to his background, which we are unsure of, getting him as an older dog. He was picked up as a stray, with a massive tumour. He is other dog agressive, and possibly just very set in his ways.

I won’t say never again really, but he’s nowhere near as easy as the other 3.

Fair enough, they can be a stubborn breed and like their selective deafness but my experience has been they are pretty laid back and take life as it comes, I'm not really up for a very "needy" breed so have always loved their independence and what I guess some would call aloofness.

 

[TheresaW]

Fair enough, they can be a stubborn breed and like their selective deafness but my experience has been they are pretty laid back and take life as it comes, I'm not really up for a very "needy" breed so have always loved their independence and what I guess some would call aloofness.

He’s definitely stubborn, but with people, really not aloof. Loves his cuddles. (And his cow ears)

 

[fankino04]

He’s definitely stubborn, but with people, really not aloof. Loves his cuddles. (And his cow ears)

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Pigs ears were a massive favourite of ours. Ashkii loved any attention and would often fall over onto you so you couldn't get away from him lol, the girls were very much about attention on their terms only, none of them were aggressive but the girls would just walk away when they had had enough rather than put up with unwanted cuddles. He's gorgeous by the way x

 

[skinnydipper]

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[SAujla]

She's 24kg so also to big and a really dangerous dog

 

[CanteringCarrot]

She's 24kg so also to big and a really dangerous dog

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Those eyes

 

[conniegirl]

The thing is whilst labs/retrievers/spaniels can all bite when badly handled they do not generally have the temperament, bite strength and drive to absolutely savage someone and they do not have the propensity to just flip like the XL bully.

As an aside a friend of mine had a malamute, you had to be very careful around him and he did give me the heebies but no where near what an XL bully did

 

[Cinnamontoast]

How about we made it 20kgs then ?

Ha, Goose is screwed! Just about 20kg at last weigh in.

 

[bonny]

Ha, Goose is screwed! Just about 20kg at last weigh in.
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There’s a vicious dog if I ever saw one !

 

[Cortez]

The point is though that whilst any dog  can bite you, the vast, vast majority don't feel like doing so.

 

[I'm Dun]

20 kg, that includes Maz, not sure she is very scary
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And Cooper! Hes pretty terrifying if you are a deer/rabbit/squirrel but with people and other dogs hes totally trustworthy

 

[SAujla]

Ha, Goose is screwed! Just about 20kg at last weigh in.
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Weigh him after a poo, get him under the pivotal 20kg

 

[daffy44]

Well I'm very relieved, a staffy, but fortunately 19kg!

 

[ArklePig]

Joining the 20kg killer club she's ferocious.

 

[Cinnamontoast]

Weigh him after a poo, get him under the pivotal 20kg

I fear, tho, that Mitch-22kg and Bear (turbo springer)-26kg, would fail the test!

 

[Smitty]

Is your dog on Spain's dangerous dogs list? - Spain Explained

There is a list of dogs in Spain that owners much have a licence to own. Make sure that you comply or risk a heavy fine.

blog.abacoadvisers.com

This is a bit out of date but interesting.