Another fatal dog attack

[ArklePig]

My dog never met someone she didn't want to touch her tbh she's ridiculously social with people, a real good time gal. I often say no though because some people seem weird and I don't want to get engaged in conversation/ take her attention off me. Depends what we're doing tbh. I feel like an absolute tool whenever I say, sorry she's not friendly and she's looking up at them like

If I see her approaching a random stranger I just recall her though it's really not that difficult.

She's actually more restrained than me though, I do have the urge to touch every dog who approaches me (I don't act on it). I just really like all the dogs

 

[blackcob]

 

[CanteringCarrot]

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[skinnydipper]

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[Smitty]

A guy phoned the vets where I work at 10am yesterday, (the day the ban comes in at midnight) asking us to chip his dog, which turned out to be an XL, registered with another vets. I said we could, as long as it was muzzled and on a short lead, but why hadn't he gone to his own vet? "They don't have any appointments," said he. "Oh", said I, and started looking at the diary.
"I want an appointment before 11 o'clock or I'm not going to bother having it done.."
"Well we haven't got one." (literally within the next hour... )
"Well I won't bother then."
I have no words.

Oh, OK, this bodes well for the future! Let's hope he was a one off, but doubt it somehow.

So the breeder didn't chip before pup left and I assume that if the dog isn't chipped, then it's not exempted or insured.

I wonder how many more of these dogs will end up being 'despatched' by their owner now as unless they have the paperwork, they are illegal.

 

[I'm Dun]

Props to anyone who can train a dog not to approach some people/has a dog who can discern people who don't like dogs or doesn't want to be approached by them. Mad skillz.

Its not difficult, if we are standing talking to someone they check in and get the ok, if we are walking along they keep going. The only thing Ive trained is "go round" which covers not having a lot of space, and if someone is very appealing and I don't want them stopping. Thats usually kids, the youngest loves kids, but I don't want him going up to kids unless the parents ask. Whippets arent very trainable dogs and I'm far from a dog trainer, so if I can do it then I'm pretty sure anyone else can.

 

[cbmcts]

Of my two, one is convinced that every stranger, canine or human is a friend he hasn't met yet. The other is very wary of strangers especially men. His worst nightmare is a tall bearded man in a hat and high viz aka most bin men. Tuesdays we don't road walk - ever.

Yet which one do randoms skip up to, arms outstretched to try and pat on the head? Little dog, doing the cute dobby the house elf look, in a sit 3 inches above the ground because his tail is wagging so hard he's levitating or the big dog giving them the hairy eyeball while moving behind my legs? Especially at the vets when big dog is muzzled, obviously tense with ears pinned so tightly you'd think they didn't exist... Yep, you've guessed it, it's the big, unhappy dog! And when you say, don't touch please they get really stroppy. It's usually men (or the type of woman who always announces, loudly that they're a dog trainer or groomer. Should know better then)I used be polite about it and give an explanation. Now I just snap don't touch MY dog, with huge emphasise on my...

Funnily enough, anti social big dog is much easier to take places, sit him in a corner or under a table and he goes to sleep, ignoring everyone. Little dog is ever hopeful that he'll be noticed and is up and down like a jack in the box if anyone even glances at him. He's pretty thick but he does know 'leave them alone' but it gets repetitive...

 

[CorvusCorax]

Its not difficult, if we are standing talking to someone they check in and get the ok, if we are walking along they keep going. The only thing Ive trained is "go round" which covers not having a lot of space, and if someone is very appealing and I don't want them stopping. Thats usually kids, the youngest loves kids, but I don't want him going up to kids unless the parents ask. Whippets arent very trainable dogs and I'm far from a dog trainer, so if I can do it then I'm pretty sure anyone else can.

How did you train that?

 

[Caol Ila]

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Hah. No dogs here, but I've been known to tell people that "my horse is really skittish with strangers" when people ask to pet them (Fin is; Hermosa isn't, so it's often a baldfaced lie) because I'm not very social and usually can't be arsed.

 

[Titchy Pony]

Hah. No dogs here, but I've been known to tell people that "my horse is really skittish with strangers" when people ask to pet them (Fin is; Hermosa isn't, so it's often a baldfaced lie) because I'm not very social and usually can't be arsed.

I've been trying to train the people that want to speak to my dog (I should probably just concentrate on the dog, it'd be easier!). I've been telling a lot of of kids (and some adults) that they need to ask before coming up to my puppy, that is unfortunately an extremely cute fluffball at the moment! I have less of an issue with my Monster, but it does sometimes happen that people approach us without warning. He once warned someone off himself before I had chance to intervene, with a single bark, turning his head away and carrying on. He's impressive enough that people don't push him. I wish I could get that behaviour reliably out of Monster.
For the horses, I'm always happy to let anyone who asks come up to see them and occasionally offer if I can see a little girl looking longingly at them but not daring to ask. I live in a small village and rely on people to let me know if something is wrong, so a bit of good will goes a long way (two separate people I didn't know from Adam helped me trace down the Old Lady when she went out for an unauthorised nocturnal run last year). The girls are not the most patient of horses, so they'll get me out off any prolonged social interactions pretty quickly.

 

[skinnydipper]

He once warned someone off himself before I had chance to intervene, with a single bark, turning his head away and carrying on. He's impressive enough that people don't push him. I wish I could get that behaviour reliably out of Monster.

He is telling them he isn't comfortable with their attention. I wouldn't try and suppress his warning..

 

[planete]

He is telling them he isn't comfortable with their attention. I wouldn't try and suppress that.

You were lucky. I have had someone touch a growling muzzled dog! I think they were being absent minded and they apologised but still...

 

[Titchy Pony]

He is telling them he isn't comfortable with their attention. I wouldn't try and suppress his warning..

Sorry, I didn't express myself very well. I wish I could get him to repeat that behaviour everytime he needs to. It was perfect, just enough warning without going overboard (which can be his problem). In this case he also ignored the man's rather strange reaction to his bark of throwing his arms in the air and pretend barking at my dog (very strange). Monster is welcome to express his discomfort whenever he wants and I will do my best to listen and get him out of the situation. He is overall very comfortable about people, but somedays, he just doesn't want to talk or maybe finds people weird (I can't always blame him!).

 

[Titchy Pony]

You were lucky. I have had someone touch a growling muzzled dog! I think they were being absent minded and they apologised but still...

I can't say I'm overly surprised. I've seen a young girl once scratching a growling border collie under the chin, bent down face towards him. The dog was full on tense, hackles raised. I told her "he's saying he doesn't like that, leave him alone". She replied "Yes I know, I've worked with dogs before". I was then a lot less polite, told her she was an idiot and asked if she was trying to get disfigured for life and the poor dog put down.

 

[skinnydipper]

Some people do stupid so well.

I was walking with my GSD one day, enjoying the countryside. He was off lead but close to me. We didn't hear the jogger coming up behind and knew nothing until he shoved his hand in my dog's face as he passed us. We were both stunned.

I assume the chap thought he was doing that silly business of 'here smell my hand' but frankly it seemed like a good way to get bitten.

I wish people wouldn't do that thing where they shove their hand in the dog's face for them to smell. It's unnecessary. The dog can already smell them, and if they feel the scent needs further investigation they might move in for a closer sniff - that is not an invitation to stroke the dog.

 

[Cinnamontoast]

I don’t actually, in general, like other peoples dogs very much. I certainly don’t want to touch them or heaven forbid have them lick me. .

My youngsters will avoid people these days, they skip out of the way, more to do with being far more interested in meeting other dogs than being anti-social (I think). Watching them in the woods today, they’re just not interested. Someone managed a stroke of Goose last week, I was surprised. Bear very determinedly ignores everyone, dogs too. I had a very excitable schnoodle (apparently) jump at me today. I’d really rather it didn’t, but you meet all sorts in the woods, it is known for being friendly. Bit like Clodagh, I’m not fond of anyone else’s dog unless it’s a springer or keesie.

 

[misst]

I went to the local feed shop today and there was what I am pretty sure was an XLB being led round the shop. It was full of people trollies and other dogs. It was on a short lead being held by a large man who was definitely being towed around by it. It had a muzzle on, a nylon one which left it nose exposed but I assume it couldn't open it's mouth enough to bite? It looked very uncomfortable. It's a big shop but it was crowded. I just wondered why it was being led around it. The shop is in a non residential area with a huge carpark so I am sure it could have waited in the car/van for a while.

 

[Jemima50]

 

[Ratface]

I went to the local feed shop today and there was what I am pretty sure was an XLB being led round the shop. It was full of people trollies and other dogs. It was on a short lead being held by a large man who was definitely being towed around by it. It had a muzzle on, a nylon one which left it nose exposed but I assume it couldn't open it's mouth enough to bite? It looked very uncomfortable. It's a big shop but it was crowded. I just wondered why it was being led around it. The shop is in a non residential area with a huge carpark so I am sure it could have waited in the car/van for a while.

Unfortunately, it's difficult to fix stupidity.

 

[Jemima50]

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This is Marmaduke our American Bulldog

 

[Jemima50]

This is Marmaduke our American Bulldog

I know this is going to get laughed at , but he his the most gentle dog I have owned , and being a farmers wife I have owned many dogs !
Infact it was my JRT that made the postie refuse to deliver our post. The little beast used to jump off the garden wall and attack him , whilst Marmaduke observed this mayhem and didn't get involved !

 

[I'm Dun]

CC my quote hasnt worked and I'm too lazy to scroll back looking for your post, but I paired the action with a word, then reward. Easily done on a narrow tow path as they have to move over sometimes anyway. They also know over, which means stand at the side as opposed to go round which means move to the side but carry on moving forward. I'm teaching them left and right now, but I think that's a cheat as they are responding to my body language when deciding which way to turn, rather than using the word. They know bridge in the same sort of cheat way.

 

[bonny]

I know this is going to get laughed at , but he his the most gentle dog I have owned , and being a farmers wife I have owned many dogs !
Infact it was my JRT that made the postie refuse to deliver our post. The little beast used to jump off the garden wall and attack him , whilst Marmaduke observed this mayhem and didn't get involved !

That’s what just about everyone says about their dogs until it’s no longer the case and then it’s but he’s never done that before!

 

[misst]

I know this is going to get laughed at , but he his the most gentle dog I have owned , and being a farmers wife I have owned many dogs !
Infact it was my JRT that made the postie refuse to deliver our post. The little beast used to jump off the garden wall and attack him , whilst Marmaduke observed this mayhem and didn't get involved !

I am not laughing at you. If you have had him a long time and he is reliably good then that is wonderful. Bull breeds can be lovely dogs. I love staffys and EBTs. I am sure some ABT are lovely too. But XLBs are different. They are crossed usually to get the worst of all breeds as I understand it. They are nice until they aren't nice.
My JRTs have been wonderful as have my sons but I have known some right little b*ggers. The difference is size. My JRT is unlikely to kill a person if she turns nasty. An XLB is like a missile and almost impossible o stop.

 

[Splash2310]

Apologies if this has been covered, but how do you report an XL Bully? There was one walking along a tow path (behind a park full of small children) unmuzzled and off the lead on our walk earlier today. Thankfully my dog was on lead and the owner grabbed the bully as he went past, but I was very uncomfortable, as was my dog who has been attacked by one in the past.

 

[misst]

Dog warden or police I would think. It's difficult in the moment unless you can get a photo or video, but this might cause some agro so I'd probably not do this. If you know the person or address report on 101 or dog warden.

 

[Smitty]

Next steps in the XL Bully ban

As from today (1 February) enforcement action will be taken as the next stage of the XL Bully ban begins. We understand the new restrictions on XL Bully dogs are an adjustment and change for everyone. Thousands of dogs have already been registered and owners are stepping up and following the...

www.southyorks.police.uk

Apologies if this has been covered, but how do you report an XL Bully? There was one walking along a tow path (behind a park full of small children) unmuzzled and off the lead on our walk earlier today. Thankfully my dog was on lead and the owner grabbed the bully as he went past, but I was very uncomfortable, as was my dog who has been attacked by one in the past.

Hope link works. Just one force but hopefully this wil. Be a countrywide aporoach.

 

[nutjob]

Infact it was my JRT that made the postie refuse to deliver our post. The little beast used to jump off the garden wall and attack him

You're exactly the sort of person who should not be allowed to have a large, dangerous and powerful dog. Why is this acceptable in any way whatsoever? Just because it's a small dog doesn't mean that you should allow it to attack people. The bites still hurt and can be a serious problem for folks on blood thinners, immunosuppressant therapy etc. I've been bitten twice by dogs neither were xlb's but both owned by irresponsible owners who could have prevented it.

 

[rara007]

Another fatal attack in Jaywick.

 

[AmyMay]

Another fatal attack in Jaywick.

Link?