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What's the thought behind keeping them outdoors? The handlerss I work with have them indoors.

Several of them have 2 or 3 dogs, one being a detection dog of some sort
I'm guessing because they're working and not to be made soppy (had to force Bear off my knee to allow Mitch room to get up, all 3 want to be on my knee). I'm going to ask my Year 10 student tomorrow where her dad's are kept.
 

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What's the thought behind keeping them outdoors? The handlerss I work with have them indoors.

Several of them have 2 or 3 dogs, one being a detection dog of some sort
I know of a number who live indoors or at least spend time inside with the handler and family after work or on rest days but it’s basically because they are working dogs and need a place away from distractions to rest between shifts.
 

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I know of a number who live indoors or at least spend time inside with the handler and family after work or on rest days but it’s basically because they are working dogs and need a place away from distractions to rest between shifts.
She says her dad's are mostly indoors but sleep outside. They have a GSD pet, old girl, one working gsd, one springer (drugs dog) and one other in training as one is about to retire.
My friend's BIL's dogs had a kennel and run in the garden. Police issue. His first GSD was his little boy's best friend and was a fabulous dog. Unfortunately slipped the tendon off his hock and had to retire so was rehomed. Couldn't stay with them as he was having another dog. His son was devastated.
I don't know if the girl's dad is re-homing the one about to retire, must ask.
 

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She says her dad's are mostly indoors but sleep outside. They have a GSD pet, old girl, one working gsd, one springer (drugs dog) and one other in training as one is about to retire.

I don't know if the girl's dad is re-homing the one about to retire, must ask.
Thankfully, more often than not the handler keeps the retiring dog as a pet, but obviously sometimes that’s not an option for a variety of reasons so the retiree is rehomed.
 

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My friend's GP dog retired with them (mainly because he was a dangerous barsteward) and lived in the house, but obviously couldn't be touched/handled by anyone else, I think a lot of the GP dogs are also kennelled for safety of family/friends rather than lack of sentimentality.
Spaniels and labs not so much.
 

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My friend's GP dog retired with them (mainly because he was a dangerous barsteward) and lived in the house, but obviously couldn't be touched/handled by anyone else, I think a lot of the GP dogs are also kennelled for safety of family/friends rather than lack of sentimentality.
Spaniels and labs not so much.
I asked if the gsd was scary and she kind of agreed. 😱
 

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A guy phoned the vets where I work at 10am yesterday, (the day the ban comes in at midnight) asking us to chip his dog, which turned out to be an XL, registered with another vets. I said we could, as long as it was muzzled and on a short lead, but why hadn't he gone to his own vet? "They don't have any appointments," said he. "Oh", said I, and started looking at the diary.
"I want an appointment before 11 o'clock or I'm not going to bother having it done.."
"Well we haven't got one." (literally within the next hour... :rolleyes: )
"Well I won't bother then."
I have no words.
 

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I wonder how many confrontations there will be today with XL bullies owners walking their XL bullies on extendable leads when the rules/law says 2 metres maximum length of a lead.
Not as many as there'll people walking bulldogs, staffies, mastiffs and under-height bullies being harassed in the street by the local Karen because their dog isn't muzzled, I'll wager.
Let's face it, most people don't know the difference. I still get asked when my Shetland pony will grow as big as the others.
 

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I saw that. Looks like quite a young dog and she is now going to be harassed by people wanting to give her cuddles, not sure the owner has thought it through.
How do you make a large breed pup into a big friendly dog? By accustoming it to being greeted by lots of friendly people.

Currently I am taking my Presa into town to make sure she's good in all situations. Sometimes the job is to calmly ignore everything around her, and sometimes it is to sit patiently until a passing stranger wants a fuss. She always enjoys it when they do, and will try to sneak a lick if they bend down far enough.
Luckily she doesn't have to wear a muzzle... yet.
 

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How do you make a large breed pup into a big friendly dog? By accustoming it to being greeted by lots of friendly people.

Currently I am taking my Presa into town to make sure she's good in all situations. Sometimes the job is to calmly ignore everything around her, and sometimes it is to sit patiently until a passing stranger wants a fuss. She always enjoys it when they do, and will try to sneak a lick if they bend down far enough.
Luckily she doesn't have to wear a muzzle... yet.

I’ve always taught my GSDs to ignore people we meet in town , unless someone asks to say hello to them in which case I allow a calm greeting . The owner in the above post says the dog is “disappointed “ when she pulls towards people to say hello and they move away . So by encouraging people to fuss her it is likely she will end up with a large dog pulling towards everyone , not ideal .
 

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I know a Golden Retriever who hides behind his handler's legs and is incredibly headshy because the owner encouraged all sorts of randomers to come up and fuss him in the street. Yep, that's right, you can make even a Golden Retriever hate people....

Other people's dogs are really none of my business and vice versa, unless they or I want it that way. And then there's the dogs that think everyone else is more fun than their owner. Someone really ballsed up my young dog's engagement for a while by doing a really OTT greeting when she was in an imprinting phase, she completely ignored other people before that.
 

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How do you make a large breed pup into a big friendly dog? By accustoming it to being greeted by lots of friendly people.
Absolutely not!
You do not create a confident friendly dog by encouraging all and sundry to pet it. You will overwhelm it and create a nervous dog.

As stated above even the friendliest breeds (the goldie) can be overwhelmed by that approach.
 

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Who are all these people who want to approach and make a hands on fuss of strange dogs?

And why would a sensible dog owner encourage them?

We meet tons of people and they are more than welcome to make a fuss of my dogs. Mine are very gregarious and outgoing and love attention. I think its nice for everyone. They are free to move away if they arent comfortable, and neither goes up to people without checking in first. They both know "go round" which means skirt round people/dogs/bikes we pass on the narrow tow path.

I quite often make a fuss of other peoples dogs as well. Not if I'm just passing, but if they stop to chat and their dog comes up to me. I like dogs and am always happy to meet new ones.

I'm ND and spend my life committing social faux pas so am probably wrong, but no one has ever said anything or looked unhappy , most people comment on what lovely dogs they are, it makes me happy, they seem happy and we all go on our merry way.
 

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We meet tons of people and they are more than welcome to make a fuss of my dogs. Mine are very gregarious and outgoing and love attention. I think its nice for everyone. They are free to move away if they arent comfortable, and neither goes up to people without checking in first. They both know "go round" which means skirt round people/dogs/bikes we pass on the narrow tow path.

I quite often make a fuss of other peoples dogs as well. Not if I'm just passing, but if they stop to chat and their dog comes up to me. I like dogs and am always happy to meet new ones.

I'm ND and spend my life committing social faux pas so am probably wrong, but no one has ever said anything or looked unhappy , most people comment on what lovely dogs they are, it makes me happy, they seem happy and we all go on our merry way.
It’s just whatever works for individuals. I wouldn’t want your dogs coming up to me for attention but if they only go to people that look inviting then I really can’t see a problem with it.
I’m also irrationally paranoid about theft and much prefer that my dogs do not want to be handled by strangers.
 

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Who are all these people who want to approach and make a hands on fuss of strange dogs?

And why would a sensible dog owner encourage them?
Last week in the pub a man came up to fuss our dog who was polishing her halo while being nice and settled on her blanket (we were so proud of her because it was busy and she was worried going in but settled down so nicely). We didn't notice him approach and it was kind of done before we had a moment to say anything. He didn't even look at or acknowledge us at any point, let alone ask 'mind if I say hello?' It was weird.

It happened to me waiting for OH outside a shop once. Guy kind of snuck up behind me and was trying to fuss dog then walked off when I turned around. Again not even an acknowledgment I was there and gone before I'd had a second to say 'actually she's not keen'.
 

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I cannot tell you how many people want to make a fuss or otherwise feel entitled to pet my dogs. It's worse with the Corso than the Lab. I guess the Lab is a mere common black Lab and the Corso is gray and more interesting? I don't know. I mean, I think she's adorable, but I'm partial!

I honestly thought about sticking a muzzle on her the other day in the large home improvement shop because then maybe people would feck off.

I don't allow all to touch or interact with her, and some take it really personally. Even if I say, oh, we're just observing today. No interactions with anyone.
 
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