Another fatal dog attack

[CorvusCorax]

Seems odd that you run the risk of being killed if you handle XL bully puppies but if you had a GSD,Rottie etc you wouldn’t. Sort of shows what temperament they are breeding for if that is the recommendation . Idiots !!

Someone recently showed me a video of their Malinois jumping up at the door of the whelping room barking and growling when they went near the puppies (all booked, by the by). For first four or five days then was fine. But the difference was they just left the bitch/puppies alone until she had calmed down.

 

[GSD Woman]

Man and woman charged after boy bitten by XL bully in Bootle

The eight-year-old is in a serious condition in hospital after being bitten on the head by the dog.

www.bbc.co.uk

This is horrible. American bulldogs seem to be fairly rare in most parts of the USA. They're often used as hog dogs in the southern areas over here. Wild hogs are a huge problem in parts of the South. They tear up crops and are a serious danger to humans.
The bulldogs go out and either bring them back towards the humans or corner the hogs and hold them at bay. The hogs are then shot. I'm not sure what's done with the meat. I doubt it is wasted though. I can't imagine that it is very tasty.

 

[CorvusCorax]

American Bulldogs and XL bullies are not the same thing, though.

 

[Cortez]

American Bulldogs and XL bullies are not the same thing, though.

Isn't it claimed that AmBulldogs are part of the makeup of the XLBully? I don't know, but American Bulldogs are not without aggressive tendencies themselves and the only one I've ever met (in N. Ireland) bit the owner's child and was PTS.

 

[skinnydipper]

American Bulldogs are not without aggressive tendencies themselves

Two American Bulldogs ripped their owner's arm off a few years ago and last year a woman's arm had to be amputated following an attack by the American Bulldog she was fostering for the RSPCA.

 

[GSD Woman]

American Bulldogs can be aggressive. I wouldn't want one around children, though many are good with them.

I don't think I've ever seen an XL bullies that didn't have AmBulldog or breeds like Cane Corso or Dogo Argentino in their background.

 

[Goldenstar]

An American Bulldog was the second most scary dog I have met the top spot goes a Boerboel who was damn scary a really frightening dog he ended PTS in very difficult circumstances neither of these dogs had a bad home .

 

[GSD Woman]

When I was able to work we had a nasty, nasty tempered dog, owned by a first time owner. This woman had no business owning any sort of guarding breed.
It was some sort of Russian or Eastern European dog. It was huge and used original purpose was to guard estates and military posts. She couldn't be examined safely without sedation. One person would walk her along a wall and a second person would do the sticking.
There was also a harlequin Great Dane that was so bad we couldn't do anything with him unless the strong, young man was working that day.

 

[Pippity]

I've just been to the pharmacist to pick up more morphine, when a bloke came in with something XL bully-ish. It was on a short, solid leash, but that just meant the owner had a solid grip as it towed him behind the counter for an employee to go, "Sit! Sit! Hahahaha, he never does what he's told!" and feed it treats. And, of course, unmuzzled.

 

[Cinnamontoast]

I've just been to the pharmacist to pick up more morphine, when a bloke came in with something XL bully-ish. It was on a short, solid leash, but that just meant the owner had a solid grip as it towed him behind the counter for an employee to go, "Sit! Sit! Hahahaha, he never does what he's told!" and feed it treats. And, of course, unmuzzled.

How is it allowed into the shop? I saw a greyhound in the chemist a while back, like what is the owner thinking?! Tiny narrow aisle in a very small pharmacy, no way of getting past. Call me crazy, but I leave my lot in the car if en route back from the woods or take them home first.

 

[Squeak]

I've seen photos of what look like an XL bully and an xl bully puppy in a local dog trainers classes (without muzzles), I'd thought I must be wrong but when they put up an advertisement on a local group for their classes they had 'for all breeds' emblazoned across it so I doubt I was mistaken!

 

[scruffyponies]

I'm confused by the number of people who think big dogs shouldn't be taken anywhere, yet expect them to behave perfectly in all situations.

I spent Saturday morning (no riding, for a change) walking my young dog around the local town centre, chatting with folk and sitting on a bench in the square, letting her get used to quietly watching the world go by.
At home she meets lots of people, but it's no substitute for 'out and about'. That will occasionally mean that we make totally unnecessary trips to feed merchants or pet stores.

 

[MurphysMinder]

I'm confused by the number of people who think big dogs shouldn't be taken anywhere, yet expect them to behave perfectly in all situations.

I spent Saturday morning (no riding, for a change) walking my young dog around the local town centre, chatting with folk and sitting on a bench in the square, letting her get used to quietly watching the world go by.
At home she meets lots of people, but it's no substitute for 'out and about'. That will occasionally mean that we make totally unnecessary trips to feed merchants or pet stores.

I don’t think anyone has a problem with taking big dogs into towns and suitable shops , I do it myself . But the key word is suitable . Taking a large dog into a shop with little space isn’t fair on the dog or other people .

 

[CorvusCorax]

I don't take my dogs into the large pet chains, they think the bit with the hamsters, gerbils and rabbits is the pick n mix.

 

[rabatsa]

I don't take my dogs into the large pet chains, they think the bit with the hamsters, gerbils and rabbits is the pick n mix.

I always feel that having the small furries at dog nose/sight height is cruelty to the small furries as they have no way to avoid passing pooches.

 

[skinnydipper]

I always feel that having the small furries at dog nose/sight height is cruelty to the small furries as they have no way to avoid passing pooches.

A dog 'trainer' recently posted a photo she took of a lurcher nose pressed to the glass of the enclosure staring at a motionless rabbit in PaH. Well, excellent for the lurcher but not so great for the rabbit and 'trainer' must have never have heard of fight, flight, freeze when she called the rabbit hardcore because it didn't move. Poor rabbit.

 

[splashgirl45]

It’s fine walking around the town but I don’t see the need to take dogs into shops. Mine are used to people when walking round and don’t need to go into a shop to further their education, and even for a dog lover any dogs in shops especially large ones are difficult to avoid, I don’t want to fuss other people’s dogs when I’m shopping.

 

[CanteringCarrot]

Some of the shops here are quite large or otherwise easy to navigate without disrupting anyone else. I take my dog to shops quite a bit. Especially because I visit with some shop owners I know and like to support and they do encourage dogs to come in. My dog doesn't interact with anyone without my permission and stays at my side. It's simple, really. No one has to fuss her. Not sure why you'd feel like you have to?

I wouldn't bring her into a crowded space or when there's a huge event going on downtown though.

I've also been in shops when other people have had their dogs there, and it had basically zero impact on my shopping experience.

I do recognize that things could vary based on shop size and population.

 

[skinnydipper]

I spent Saturday morning (no riding, for a change) walking my young dog around the local town centre, chatting with folk and sitting on a bench in the square, letting her get used to quietly watching the world go by.
At home she meets lots of people, but it's no substitute for 'out and about'. That will occasionally mean that we make totally unnecessary trips to feed merchants or pet stores.

I don't know how old your pup is but be prepared for second or even third fear period when she may not be not so resilient.

 

[scruffyponies]

I always feel that having the small furries at dog nose/sight height is cruelty to the small furries as they have no way to avoid passing pooches.

My experience is that small furries which have become used to a large 2 legged predator handling them regularly, aren't too bothered by the presence of 4 legged ones.
[Check out the young dog. She's interested, but not at all sure what the form is, so she's studying the older Rottie carefully.]

NB: there's not usually quite that much crud on my carpet - I had just been carding a fleece.

 

[skinnydipper]

My experience is that small furries which have become used to a large 2 legged predator handling them regularly, aren't too bothered by the presence of 4 legged ones.

Your rabbits are used to you and your dogs. Not strange dogs.

Like my cat, who is used to living with dogs. My dogs/her dogs. Not strange dogs. So when I take her to the vets in her cat carrier neither she nor I want strange dogs sticking their nose anywhere near her carrier.

 

[splashgirl45]

Some of the shops here are quite large or otherwise easy to navigate without disrupting anyone else. I take my dog to shops quite a bit. Especially because I visit with some shop owners I know and like to support and they do encourage dogs to come in. My dog doesn't interact with anyone without my permission and stays at my side. It's simple, really. No one has to fuss her. Not sure why you'd feel like you have to?

I wouldn't bring her into a crowded space or when there's a huge event going on downtown though.

I've also been in shops when other people have had their dogs there, and it had basically zero impact on my shopping experience.

I do recognize that things could vary based on shop size and population.

We don’t have large shops so maybe that’s why I feel I don’t like dogs in shops. No I dont feel the need to fuss anyone else’s dogs, in fact I don’t , but people seem to think that it’s ok for their dog to stick its nose on me and they don’t pull it away. Perhaps I’ve been unlucky.. I must admit I petted a friends puppy this morning when we met on our walk but that’s unusual for me..

 

[Jenko109]

I took my whippet into the bank a couple of times during adolescence. Plenty of space in there and felt it was good for him to learn to stand quietly in a queue with other people around.

Likewise, he also went to the pub a number of times around the same age.

Going to the pub or the bank are not something I would generally do, however we never know what our future holds and god forbid something happens to me and he needs to be rehomed, knowing he can be a gentleman and be relaxed in these environments can only be a good thing.

When I visited Barcelona, dogs were allowed in lots of random shops. There was a Zara that allowed dogs! I would absolutely not risk this one. It would be just my luck that my boy would lift his leg on a pair of dungarees or something

 

[marmalade76]

Your rabbits are used to you and your dogs. Not strange dogs.

Like my cat, who is used to living with dogs. My dogs/her dogs. Not strange dogs. So when I take her to the vets in her cat carrier neither she nor I want strange dogs sticking their nose anywhere near her carrier.

Yep, my hens are the same, they're used to my dog but still wary of others (and people they don't know).

 

[SaddlePsych'D]

I don't take my dogs into the large pet chains, they think the bit with the hamsters, gerbils and rabbits is the pick n mix.

I made this mistake with Ivy once... just the once!

 

[Teaselmeg]

Pets at Home is an awful place for small furries, no thought whatsoever to the safety and comfort of the rabbits/guinea pigs etc. It must be terrifying to have predators constantly walking up to and past where they are kept.

Anytime I've been in there with a dog, they are not allowed anywhere near them.

 

[Mrs. Jingle]

I find it very odd to take any dog in any shop. I never did it once when I lived in the Uk and never once since I have been back here. Why would you want to? I used to walk my collies when they were young along the beach from our village to the main town, then around the busy town and back home along the beach again. Purely to get them used to other people moving along a busy pathway and traffic whizzing about right next to them. Mainly because it was so quiet where we lived and collies can be a bit neurotic if not well trained and exposed to as many environments as possible when they are young.

I just can't comprehend any reason why this is thought to be OK, for anyone, other shoppers, small children that might be in a narrow aisle and dog height, for the dogs themselves and for me the owner who just wants to get some shopping and go home. And hygiene anyone? Sniffy slobber on products on the lower shelves etc. No thanks.

 

[Clodagh]

I never take mine shopping either. They might go to the pub if I’m on a walk but that’s it.

 

[skinnydipper]

It might be because I hate shopping that I always assumed my dogs did too.

 

[splashgirl45]

Just watching reels on Facebook and not sure if any of you know the Asher house chap, well for a pleasant change he was fully dressed so I watched this one, in Portland a six year old boy was killed by 2 mastiff, Great Dane crosses and it seems that these dogs were never walked and the Asher chap was giving a warning to everyone that dogs are animals and need exercise for both their minds and bodies, such a sad story, the boy had been dropped at his grandmas friends house to get a lift to school. Sounds similar to some of the tragic stories over here. I still think our government should put some sort of educational information about dog ownership on the TV in prime evening slots so that as many people as possible are made aware of dogs needs etc