skinnydipper
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I don't know what sort of area it is but it does say "Two men were later arrested and detained after confronting officers".
Then there's the 'poor fur baby brigade' who probably held a candlelit vigil.
Another fatal dog attack
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I don't know what sort of area it is but it does say "Two men were later arrested and detained after confronting officers".
Then there's the 'poor fur baby brigade' who probably held a candlelit vigil.
Tiddlypom
Carries on creakily
I’ve no problem at all with the dog being destroyed at the scene, but the manner in which it was done by the police armed response team sounds a lot less controlled than it should be.
Just look at the bullet holes in the car
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Just look at the bullet holes in the car
.SilverLinings
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They do seem to over do it don't they? It seems as organised as the attempt toI’ve no problem at all with the dog being destroyed at the scene, but the manner in which it was done by the police armed response team sounds a lot less controlled than it should be.
Just look at the bullet holes in the car
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skinnydipper
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"A police spokesperson said: "At around 9pm tonight (Friday 28 June 2024) on Gladstone Road in Eccles we were called to several reports of a dog dangerously out of control that was subsequently attacking the public and injured a woman in the process.
"Initially, both local officers and the public were unable to regain control of the dog. Specialised officers were deployed and tried to safely secure the XL Bully but were unsuccessful. This meant unfortunately due to the risk and harm it was causing as a banned breed it was destroyed at the scene as the last possible option."
This is a video of the Police trying to shoot/shooting the dog. Don't watch if it will upset you.
The man walking down the road shouting 'don't kill my dog' should have had his dog muzzled, on a lead and under control.
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"Initially, both local officers and the public were unable to regain control of the dog. Specialised officers were deployed and tried to safely secure the XL Bully but were unsuccessful. This meant unfortunately due to the risk and harm it was causing as a banned breed it was destroyed at the scene as the last possible option."
This is a video of the Police trying to shoot/shooting the dog. Don't watch if it will upset you.
The man walking down the road shouting 'don't kill my dog' should have had his dog muzzled, on a lead and under control.
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bonny
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Wow, that’s a shocking way to shoot a dog, on a residential road and they are lucky no one else was injured or worse.
ycbm
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bonny
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As they were shooting cars it doesn’t look like they were careful with what they were doing. They look like they start firing and then just continue, surely they should only shoot when they have a clear view of the dog and are close enough to stop it ?
ycbm
Einstein would be proud of my Insanity...
They were trying to shoot a moving target.
I'm sure they weren't doing that without senior sign off.
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bonny
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The officers with guns have to gauge for themselves if it’s safe to use them and judging by that film it certainly wasn’t. There is no justification for firing like that on a residential road.
Clodagh
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I agree with Bonny, you cannot run and shoot, unless you are John Wayne in a cowboy film. The dog looks scared and it’s not good visuals. Not disagreeing the dog needed dealing with, but it’s not a good look.
Cortez
Tough but Fair
Well of course it's scared; it's being shot at. Agree there should have been a trained marksman to do the job, but it was an emergency situation. A dog is a small moving target, not easy to shoot if you take the John Wayne/movie myth approach. As with the calf ramming incident last week, it would have been far preferable to tranquiliser dart but it was an immediate response required scenario. I wonder if there will be any push towards an appropriate animal response protocol after these incidents?
ycbm
Einstein would be proud of my Insanity...
They hit a car. In attempting to stop a dog which had already savaged a woman. I'm OK with that.
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misst
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How anyone can think it was anything other than the right outcome is beyond me.
bonny
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It’s not about you though and the people who were there seem to think the police were heavy handed and strangely don’t want them running down their road firing wildly. Several cars were hit, it’s just chan e that no one is in them or coming out of their house at the wrong time.
ycbm
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There will be other people l living in that street and that neighbourhood who are very happy that dog was shot.
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Clodagh
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I think it’s the right outcome. But if you are going to shoot anything you stand still to pull the trigger.
I'm Dun
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Its not about the right outcome, it was. But the whole thing sounds like chaos and the video makes it seem like that as well. I don't know what the answer is, but running and shooting while hitting peoples cars just gives the "fur baby" idots ammunition. And what an awful way for the dog to die. I'm no fan and would like every single one PTS humanely tomorrow. But being shot multiple times like that does make me feel sad.
Goldenstar
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I don’t give a rats behind what other people think .
The person who caused this dogs death is its brain dead owner.
A damaged car so what ,it’s a car not a human .
Of course it’s sad for the dog but it attacked someone it was unmuzzled and loose
Presumably those complaining wanted the police to wait until it was stiller perhaps when it was savaging a pensioner or some other innocent person.
cauda equina
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Why are people blaming the police?
The idiot fur baby crew need to wake up and realise that they obey the rules, or there will be consequences
They don't seem to care about members of the public being injured, but if dogs get shot dead that might make the rest of them take their responsibilities as owners more seriously
The idiot fur baby crew need to wake up and realise that they obey the rules, or there will be consequences
They don't seem to care about members of the public being injured, but if dogs get shot dead that might make the rest of them take their responsibilities as owners more seriously
bonny
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I would blame the police all day long for shooting in public like that. They have tasers which seem to be used now for dangerous dogs and to follow the dog down a road shooting it several times is way more dangerous than the dog was being at the time.
I have no problem at all to the police killing the dog if necessary so I don’t want want police shooting like that in public unless absolutely essential which it wasn’t.
ycbm
Einstein would be proud of my Insanity...
Mmmm. Bonny thinks it wasn't necessary. Very senior police officers thought it was, and gave the order for live ammunition to be used in a public street.
I know whose side I'm on.
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bonny
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That’s not how it works, firearms officers would have been sent to the scene and once there they make their own decisions. Equally they could have used tasers which wouldn’t have endangered the public
Boulty
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If the dog has already hospitalised someone, the owner is unable to bring it under control & the police have tried & failed to contain or catch it then yes they were justified in making the decision to shoot it.
The way it was carried out however… I agree with the Benny Hill with guns description.
Obviously without knowing the area we’ve no idea if there was anywhere safer they could have tried to herd the dog into (there looked to be at least 1 busy road nearby that I’m guessing they didn’t want the dog running onto) and with cars parked on both sides of road it’s highly likely they would have hit a couple of cars even if they had carried things out in a more controlled manner / that said cars were likely complicating matters in terms of containing dog
The way it was carried out however… I agree with the Benny Hill with guns description.
Obviously without knowing the area we’ve no idea if there was anywhere safer they could have tried to herd the dog into (there looked to be at least 1 busy road nearby that I’m guessing they didn’t want the dog running onto) and with cars parked on both sides of road it’s highly likely they would have hit a couple of cars even if they had carried things out in a more controlled manner / that said cars were likely complicating matters in terms of containing dog
ycbm
Einstein would be proud of my Insanity...
Yes, they are sent there by senior officers with permission to discharge live rounds in the street if they see fit. That's what I said.
Do you understand that tazers are a physical wire that you have to be close enough to shoot, which, if you miss, will also be close enough for a dog to leap and tear out your throat? I don't ask our police to put themselves in that kind of danger.
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Goldenstar
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Tell you what Bonny you volunteer to walk up out of control XL bullies and deploy a taser .
Cortez
Tough but Fair
I believe tasers have been deployed against at least one XL with limited effect, i.e. it failed to immobilise the dog. And YCBM is correct, you have to be pretty close to use a taser.
conniegirl
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Tazers have proven ineffective with XL bullies.
XL Bully that mauled three in Scots town 'shipped up from England a week ago'
AN XL Bully that was shot dead by police after it savagely mauled two men and a cop only arrived in Scotland from England a week ago, it’s claimed. Armed officers shot and killed nine-stone b…
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Smitty
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As people are unhappy with police firing live ammunition in a residential area, what other options are going to be as effective in immobilising the animal at a distance, so that it can be dealt with safely during an emergency? Would tranquilizer darts work?
cauda equina
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How about - people just don't let their bullies out?
That would work
It's unfair on the dogs that their owners seem to be ok with playing Russian roulette by proxy but hopefully the more dogs are shot dead, the more careful owners will be
Or - thinking about the XLB in a cage pulled from a river - perhaps pts by cop is a thing?
That would work
It's unfair on the dogs that their owners seem to be ok with playing Russian roulette by proxy but hopefully the more dogs are shot dead, the more careful owners will be
Or - thinking about the XLB in a cage pulled from a river - perhaps pts by cop is a thing?
Goldenstar
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No, I saw horses darted as a welfare officer it’s hard to do and slow it’s not nearly quick enough and it’s very variable in its effects especially if the animal has lots of adrenaline in its system .