Another fatal dog attack

[CorvusCorax]

I think about this quite a lot. My dogs growing up all spent their days mooching around so whatever they wanted and never came to harm. I think dogs today are so unconfident because they are so bubble wrapped they end up neurotic and snap.

But it is also true that back in the day there wasn’t any of these mutated breeds like xl

It's probably more to do with genetics (neurosis certainly is), those laid back street dogs went out and begat more street dogs and they generally had nice affable temperaments in the first place.

 

[Equi]

It's probably more to do with genetics (neurosis certainly is), those laid back street dogs went out and begat more street dogs and they generally had nice affable temperaments in the first place.

Very true which is why I get somewhat annoyed by “it’s never the dog” statements. Sometimes it is the dog, but not because the dog got up and chose violence but because people bred the dog to be the dog. That made sense in my head

 

[CorvusCorax]

Very true which is why I get somewhat annoyed by “it’s never the dog” statements. Sometimes it is the dog, but not because the dog got up and chose violence but because people bred the dog to be the dog. That made sense in my head

No you're right IMO. I've known dogs that could be placed with the worst owners in the world and would still never show any aggression (how many times have we thought 'I wish that dog would just turn around and do him and teach him a lesson'), and dogs that you could put with the most compassionate of people and still be an utter liability.

 

[misst]

As to dogs wandering the streets, I was very fond of Sinjin (St John really) at the end of my road. He was a golden retriever type. He lay in his open gate and accosted every child that passed for a lick and a pat. He turned up at peoples doors begging for tit bits (my mother always moaned about "that dog") and seemed to go home at his dinner time. Everyone knew him, everyone loved him. He was great.

My grandparents had a variety of black or black and white mongrels over the years and Grandma would let whichever one they owned at the time out of the gate to go and meet Granddad as he came home from work. Granddad then took him for a walk. The dogs never got run over or lost as far as I know. They didn't wear a lead and the only incident that happened was when Granddad stopped to talk to a neighbour whose dog went for Granddad. Rex, the dog of the moment, then went for neighbours dog and all hell broke loose. Somehow the end of Granddads finger got bitten off in the melee. No police were involved, the finger tip was missing ??eaten. Granddad said it was stupid of him to put his hand between fighting dogs, Grandma agreed and the humans all stayed friends.
Times have changed.

 

[splashgirl45]

Round our way it was Black and Tan mutts of all sizes , we had 2 Black and Tan mongrels , got the second because the first was such a good dog and the second one was just as good. My current 3 are all mongrels, have only ever had one purebred and she was a deerhound, my favourite breed

 

[CorvusCorax]

On that note.

All the various good natured black and tan/black and white mutts you/we grew up around were probably related/inter-related. The same as how all the windy-as-hell cockapoos around me are related and all the aggressive XL bullies are all related.
It's often very little to do with good or bad owners.

 

[marmalade76]

I'm betting there was a good bit of border collie in those black & white muts.

 

[rabatsa]

I remember several dogs getting shot round home for either chasing cows or killing chickens. One a white boxer, the owner had been told about it killing some chickens and he claimed that it was not his dog, even though it was the only white boxer in the area. When the dog was shot he went round to complain to the farmer about it, the farmer told him that it couldnt be his dog as his had not been killing chickens.

My father used to go jogging every morning before work and a three legged lassie collie would meet him at the corner of the road and accompany him round the riverbank everyday.

 

[I'm Dun]

No you're right IMO. I've known dogs that could be placed with the worst owners in the world and would still never show any aggression (how many times have we thought 'I wish that dog would just turn around and do him and teach him a lesson'), and dogs that you could put with the most compassionate of people and still be an utter liability.

Yup, one of mine would literally let you kick his head in and still not react. Hes just super placid and laid back. The other one is sharper, but you'd still have to go someone to get him to finally react.

 

[JFTDWS]

My Wolf never so much as raised a lip to anyone in 13 years, despite being attacked by other dogs on a few occasions. Even when he was in pain, or scared, he was charming.

My other one (who, to be fair, had a very different early background - rescue, distemper - but otherwise an identical life) is an absolute knob.

Genetics plays a massive part. People who spout the "never the dog" rhetoric are automatically blacklisted in my head.

 

[photo_jo]

My Wolf never so much as raised a lip to anyone in 13 years, despite being attacked by other dogs on a few occasions. Even when he was in pain, or scared, he was charming.

My other one (who, to be fair, had a very different early background - rescue, distemper - but otherwise an identical life) is an absolute knob.

Genetics plays a massive part. People who spout the "never the dog" rhetoric are automatically blacklisted in my head.

I went to take some photographs once, opened, drove through and closed property gate. Parked up, got out and a dog came round the corner, when I say dog I thought that looks just like a wolf but it must be some sort of husky, that was until a husky came round the corner and it was, 'nope, that is a wolf'!

 

[JFTDWS]

I went to take some photographs once, opened, drove through and closed property gate. Parked up, got out and a dog came round the corner, when I say dog I thought that looks just like a wolf but it must be some sort of husky, that was until a husky came round the corner and it was, 'nope, that is a wolf'!

You wouldn't have made that mistake with my Wolf. He was a border collie, with the most inappropriate tough guy name for an absolute pudding of a dog.

I used to work for a family with wolf hybrids. Lovely animals, but yea. Makes you look at a little floofy husky rather differently!

 

[fiwen30]

On that note.

All the various good natured black and tan/black and white mutts you/we grew up around were probably related/inter-related. The same as how all the windy-as-hell cockapoos around me are related and all the aggressive XL bullies are all related.
It's often very little to do with good or bad owners.

This is such a tangent, I’m sorry.

I remember reading something, somewhere, that if you interbred a bunch of different dog breeds for enough generations, you’d end up with a medium-sized, probably short-coated, orange/sandy with white, coloured dog, with an average head. I think the premise of whatever-it-was, was that you wouldn’t get a recognisable wolf from mashing domestic dog breeds together, basically.

No idea if there’s any truth or logic in that. It does make sense that lots of local mutts and street dogs are probably related.

 

[GSD Woman]

One a white boxer, the owner had been told about it killing some chickens and he claimed that it was not his dog, even though it was the only white boxer in the area. When the dog was shot he went round to complain to the farmer about it, the farmer told him that it couldnt be his dog as his had not been killing chickens.

Good for the farmer to smack white boxer man with his, WBM, with his own words. Killing and/or molesting livestock is NOT ALLOWED.

 

[photo_jo]

You wouldn't have made that mistake with my Wolf. He was a border collie, with the most inappropriate tough guy name for an absolute pudding of a dog.

I used to work for a family with wolf hybrids. Lovely animals, but yea. Makes you look at a little floofy husky rather differently!

I assumed your wolf was slightly less wolf like than a wolf (mind you, you do have stabby things)! It came round the corner, very aloof and it was like it looked straight through me - to where the veins went! That said it was friendly albeit I didn't fluff it between its ears!

 

[JFTDWS]

I assumed your wolf was slightly less wolf like than a wolf (mind you, you do have stabby things)! It came round the corner, very aloof and it was like it looked straight through me - to where the veins went! That said it was friendly albeit I didn't fluff it between its ears!

Mine was about as un-Wolf like as it's possible to get. More saint than savage. Every swordsman needs something pure and innocent to defend!

The eyes are something else, aren't they. They do look right through you. The hybrids I knew were rather aloof - I don't think I'd have snuggled up with them for scratches either!

 

[ester]

This is such a tangent, I’m sorry.

I remember reading something, somewhere, that if you interbred a bunch of different dog breeds for enough generations, you’d end up with a medium-sized, probably short-coated, orange/sandy with white, coloured dog, with an average head. I think the premise of whatever-it-was, was that you wouldn’t get a recognisable wolf from mashing domestic dog breeds together, basically.

No idea if there’s any truth or logic in that. It does make sense that lots of local mutts and street dogs are probably related.

Convergent evolution to ‘village dog’

 

[photo_jo]

Mine was about as un-Wolf like as it's possible to get. More saint than savage. Every swordsman needs something pure and innocent to defend!

The eyes are something else, aren't they. They do look right through you. The hybrids I knew were rather aloof - I don't think I'd have snuggled up with them for scratches either!

The eyes do indeed have it.

 

[CorvusCorax]

Jailed because a second incident triggered a suspended sentence.

Love Island star avoids jail after appealing sentence for dog biting runner

A reality TV star has avoided being sent to jail after successfully appealing his sentence for his “out of control” black Cane Corso biting a jogger.

www.kentonline.co.uk

 

[CastlelackSportHorses]

This is such a tangent, I’m sorry.

I remember reading something, somewhere, that if you interbred a bunch of different dog breeds for enough generations, you’d end up with a medium-sized, probably short-coated, orange/sandy with white, coloured dog, with an average head. I think the premise of whatever-it-was, was that you wouldn’t get a recognisable wolf from mashing domestic dog breeds together, basically.

No idea if there’s any truth or logic in that. It does make sense that lots of local mutts and street dogs are probably related.

Like a Dingo...

 

[marmalade76]

Good! At long last something is being done about these antisocial dogs!

 

[Keith_Beef]

Jailed because a second incident triggered a suspended sentence.

Love Island star avoids jail after appealing sentence for dog biting runner

A reality TV star has avoided being sent to jail after successfully appealing his sentence for his “out of control” black Cane Corso biting a jogger.

www.kentonline.co.uk

But he's got a bright red collar, marked "CAUTION", so everybody should stay away from him!!1!1!!111!!



The pair of them should get a one way trip to the vet.

 

[CorvusCorax]

And even that's on upside down...

 

[CanteringCarrot]

The fact that his dog has cropped ears, tells me most of what I need to know about his owner. Granted, I get that some people do rescue or adopt dogs that are already cropped and it wasn't their choice (they're just trying to give the dog a good home).

Part of me is also convinced that a Cane Corso with white on the chest and paws has some Pitbull influence in their breeding. That's probably just me being a biased idiot of sorts though.

I agree with the pair of them getting a one way trip to the vet. It's incredibly hard to "rehab" a Cane Corso that's had a shitty owner or otherwise crap upbringing. It takes a very specific lifestyle and type of person that is incredibly rare. It's really for the best that the dog is euthed. Perhaps the human can join in for package deal.

 

[Teaselmeg]

The fact that his dog has cropped ears, tells me most of what I need to know about his owner. Granted, I get that some people do rescue or adopt dogs that are already cropped and it wasn't their choice (they're just trying to give the dog a good home).

Part of me is also convinced that a Cane Corso with white on the chest and paws has some Pitbull influence in their breeding. That's probably just me being a biased idiot of sorts though.

I agree with the pair of them getting a one way trip to the vet. It's incredibly hard to "rehab" a Cane Corso that's had a shitty owner or otherwise crap upbringing. It takes a very specific lifestyle and type of person that is incredibly rare. It's really for the best that the dog is euthed. Perhaps the human can join in for package deal.

He sourced the dog from Russia a few years ago, and got a lot of grief for buying a cropped puppy. It was never going to go well for the poor dog, letting him have the dog back when he gets out of jail is the last thing that should happen

 

[CanteringCarrot]

He sourced the dog from Russia a few years ago, and got a lot of grief for buying a cropped puppy. It was never going to go well for the poor dog, letting him have the dog back when he gets out of jail is the last thing that should happen

Yeah, I figured the dog was foreign sourced. I'm really not sure why the dog hasn't already been destroyed/euthanized. The fact that he can get the dog back is mind boggling. I don't think the dog should be locked up, or in a kennel, I think that the dog doesn't need to exist. It's the best decision for the dog, really...and the general public.

 

[CorvusCorax]

Some brokers also bring them in cropped, do a bit of basic training and then sell them for stupid money. I know of someone who paid a LOT for a dog from such a place, that nipped a tradesman at the far end of the property then ran off, but let someone I know (who told me the story) climb over the back wall and let themselves into the house while they went and hid in the corner.

 

[blackcob]

And even that's on upside down...

Flexi lead though, so it can unspool nice and close to you so you can still read it.

 

[CanteringCarrot]

Some brokers also bring them in cropped, do a bit of basic training and then sell them for stupid money. I know of someone who paid a LOT for a dog from such a place, that nipped a tradesman at the far end of the property then ran off, but let someone I know (who told me the story) climb over the back wall and let themselves into the house while they went and hid in the corner.

A lot of these dogs are fear aggressive vs actual guardians.

 

[CorvusCorax]

A lot of these dogs are fear aggressive vs actual guardians.

Yup! A dog that can't distinguish between a guy mind his business out running and an actual threat ain't good for anything.