Boggle- USA bound!

[CanteringCarrot]

We never really knew what was wrong but it's never happened again thankfully.

I can't even think of the number of times I've heard this regarding horses.

Bleddy horses! Might be the death of us, and not them!

 

[ycbm]

Jesus M this is awful for you. I've got my flipping arms and legs crossed here for better news soon. Hang in there.
.

 

[Michen]

Yeah, my dogs (well, one is more sensitive/receptive) are clueless at such times! That's ok though, I'm sure Pepper is fine where she is.

I'm a worst case scenario type, but it's entirely possible that Bog will indeed go back to the barn and a you'll be gracing us with lovely photos of him and the scenery again! I think having prior trauma of sorts does not help in these situations. At all. I get it to some extent, because I've been through some sh*t in my life, albeit not this exact scenario, and I know how bad things can just...suck. Or how quickly things can change. That goes both ways though. Things can change for the worse or for the better. Many horses have gotten mysterious ailments or even a diagnosed ailment with a poor prognosis and things have turned around. It's just all so "unknown" right now, and that's just hard.

You're doing everything that you can though. Hopefully you'll get to see him and he with him for a bit today.

Pepper is with her favorite American family having a much nicer time than she would or even does here.

Yeah, you are right. And I know these things can happen and I know truly it’s not my fault BUT if Boggle doesn’t make it because of some weird ass American virus that he’s picked up through being here… I am not sure how I will even begin to forgive myself for that.

It’s so unfair, I see owners all the time making stupid decisions on their horses (online, fb, shows) and getting away with it. I do EVERYTHING I can, absolutely everything to put my horse first and make the right choices for him. I’d do literally anything.

And still, somehow, he’s the one in the ICU with a very uncertain future right now.

I guess life was all going a bit too well, something had to burst the bubble at some point.

 

[quizzie]

Not good guys, his fever is higher than it ever has been this morning and he's refusing any food. They are icing his front legs because they are also now worried about laminitis (apparently that can correlate?).

Back on the banamine. They think he really should be perking up by now if it's what they expected ie day 3 of a coronavirus.

F***.

Try not to panic... it is not uncommon for some viruses to be biphasic, ie : they throw a raised temperature, appear to improve, and then their temperature rises again.... and once that breaks, they are usually on the road to recovery.

Hang in there....he is in the best place for any problems to be picked up early and acted on quickly.

 

[View]

OMG, the pair of you are being put through the wringer. Two things going for him are that he is such a fit horse, and that you knew he wasn’t right so got him there PDQ.

Everything crossed, and recovery vibes sent.

 

[equinerebel]

Often with a virus things get really rough before they get better. He’s a fit, otherwise healthy horse. He has everything in his favour. Crossing my fingers for you both.

 

[Pinkvboots]

I can't even think of the number of times I've heard this regarding horses.

Bleddy horses! Might be the death of us, and not them!

I know they are such complicated animals really.

 

[Kunoichi73]

So sorry to hear poor Boggle is still poorly. You've done your absolute best for him at every step. Sending you hugs and Boggle healing vibes.

 

[humblepie]

Michen, have only just caught up with this post. So sorry that Boggle is poorly and wishing both you and him all the very best.

 

[Michen]

I really want to speak to my trusted UK vet and have him review everything but I guess there's no point, and there's no way I can get any words out at the moment without bawling. If he was in the UK he'd have been admitted to a hospital anyway and not under his care but I just wish I had a familiar person involved in his case.

 

[BallyRoanBaubles]

Oh Michen how awful for you both, I agree if you can push to see him hopefully you can get him to eat something. Everything crossed here

 

[nagblagger]

Could you send your uk vet an email, summarising everything, he may think of something 'out of the box', or at least reassure you that the US vets are doing everything possible.

 

[Pinkvboots]

I really want to speak to my trusted UK vet and have him review everything but I guess there's no point, and there's no way I can get any words out at the moment without bawling. If he was in the UK he'd have been admitted to a hospital anyway and not under his care but I just wish I had a familiar person involved in his case.

Maybe drop him an email another opinion could be helpful.

 

[Michen]

I've text him, I know he will call me and that is going to finish me off!

 

[palo1]

That's a good thing to do. Your familiar UK vet will provide a different but trusted perspective and it will give you something constructive to do and think about. Bog is a tough little horse in fabulous, hard condition so he has everything on his side.

 

[2 Dragons]

Just wanted to you know I'm thinking of and keeping everything crossed for you

 

[nagblagger]

Write down everything so if you begin to 'crack'' talking to him, or forget something, you will be able to read it out to him.

 

[Michen]

Oh bless him, he replied immediately and said he will absolutely take a look and as a very supportive friend not a client (I'd of course offered to pay for a consult) and do whatever he can to help.

He is the best vet ever!

 

[nagblagger]

Brilliant news.. Could he phone the vets direct, (with your permission as owner)

 

[gunnergundog]

Presumably your vets will be familiar with this: https://equinediseasecc.org/alerts
There was an EIA case in early June. Guess it would have been picked up on your bloods, but maybe worth mentioning.

Google tells me that last year there were a number of issues reported in wild horses after wild fires in the area. Not sure if there are any around at the moment.

Trying to be helpful, not alarmist....fingers crossed for the boy.
Take care.

 

[Michen]

I've given them his number and they are going to call him. I know it's probably pointless in reality but I know he will then give me his honest thoughts.

 

[nagblagger]

Not pointless, you will have reassurance that Bog is getting the best treatment from Uk as well as USA.
I understand how important it is to have respect and trust for a vet. ..i have 1 on 'speed dial' for the dogs, and the 3 partners for the equines. they are knowledgeable, will gives the facts and prognosis without being influenced by money etc.
Hang in there, you are doing everything for Bog that you can possibly do.

 

[Honey08]

How lovely of your U.K. vet. It will be great to have someone that understands all the jargon too.

But I’m worried about you. Have you people around you? I hope you aren’t sitting on your own.

 

[CanteringCarrot]

Pepper is with her favorite American family having a much nicer time than she would or even does here.

Yeah, you are right. And I know these things can happen and I know truly it’s not my fault BUT if Boggle doesn’t make it because of some weird ass American virus that he’s picked up through being here… I am not sure how I will even begin to forgive myself for that.

It’s so unfair, I see owners all the time making stupid decisions on their horses (online, fb, shows) and getting away with it. I do EVERYTHING I can, absolutely everything to put my horse first and make the right choices for him. I’d do literally anything.

And still, somehow, he’s the one in the ICU with a very uncertain future right now.

I guess life was all going a bit too well, something had to burst the bubble at some point.

That's how I felt with the horse import debacle. When I decided that I ultimately wanted to bring mine with me, make the commitment to him for life, and fork over the cash, I couldn't import him. Whereas others import all the time and sell for profit, or I know others that have brought theirs over just to lease out and make money on, and other things. So to me it was just "unfair" that my horse that I loved and cared about couldn't come with me. Others that seemingly don't care about the horse(s) could import theirs, but I couldn't. It has basically ended my riding ambitions but life is just unfair. Same with the people that keep their horse in a literal junkyard with nary a scratch! But a horse kept properly will find a way to sever a limb!

So you are right, it is unfair! Life is also fill of ups and downs and it can be downright exhausting. I'm not going to fool you into thinking otherwise, but this might not be the end!

Edit: that's really lovely of your UK vet! What a gem he is!

 

[Michen]

How lovely of your U.K. vet. It will be great to have someone that understands all the jargon too.

But I’m worried about you. Have you people around you? I hope you aren’t sitting on your own.

Yeah I’m not alone unless I want to be (which mostly I do). A friend from the barn is on her way actually to pop in. Thank you. X

 

[CanteringCarrot]

Yeah I’m not alone unless I want to be (which mostly I do). A friend from the barn is on her way actually to pop in. Thank you. X

I'm thrilled that you have such good friends/people there already! That's really great.

 

[Michen]

I'm thrilled that you have such good friends/people there already! That's really great.

So damn lucky. I've had people offering to put whatever he needs on their credit cards if needed. They've known me 7 months, to even consider doing that (not that I'd let them) is unbelievably kind.

 

[nagblagger]

Could she go with you to visit Bog, as a support, when you insist you want to cuddle him? She may be able to articulate your needs better as she is not so emotionally attached.

 

[Northern Hare]

Sending you lots of best wishes Michen. As always, you have Boggle in great shape, so he'll be best placed to fight this off, he's a tough horse, and it certainly sounds as though they're taking great care of him in the veterinary hospital. The collective H&H Forum are sending you lots of good luck vibes across the Atlantic at the moment, it might feel like you're a long way away, but you're in all our thoughts.

 

[Floofball]

This is just awful for you both atm M. Sounds like Bogs immune system has decided to kick what ever this is’s arse with his fever response, and isn’t he in the best place with vets on hand to ice legs and keep watch over him. Hoping you get to visit soon and routing for you both with everyone else also very impressed with your UK vet.