Finding horse

Kylara said:
I'd obviously tell insurance, but xrays wouldn't be a requirement for insurance, and there is no history of anything as he has never been lame and shoes were swapped back after my vetting picked up the minor lame on circle and he isn't lame at all under saddle.

It's just that if he didn't have the xrays you'd have no idea as he's perfectly sound. And even before it was only minor lameness on circle that's been fixed by going back to Dutch wide web shoes.

He wouldn't be a sell on prospect but a keep going until he needed retirement or pts (plenty of space for that) as he easily has the capacity for adv med - could probably go out med now. :/

It's very tempting as he is seriously lovely. I might have a chat with my vet and see what they think. I've not seen a horse half as nice either.
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Sorry but your nuts and just sounds desperate to find a horse. Believe me I know how you feel!
I've been in the same situation a couple of times and you start by little compromises, then they get bigger.
If one of us had written this before you started looking and asked you to give us odds on what you would do or was he more likely to stay as sound as one that didn't have said problem
what happens if he loses a shoe and hairs round the field?
 
He's just sooo lovely.

If it was one of my clients I'd be shaking them and telling them to stop being crazy. But there's that little bit in my head saying maybe he'll be the one out of many that just keeps on going. The one everyone hopes to get! I just can't believe how not lame he is considering the state of his navicular bones.

Wouldn't spend a fortune on treatment if he broke badly, would be field retirement at home if field sound or pts if that's not possible.

It is true that the search is going terribly. Best so far has been looking for tiny pony to play with and go showing. But hard to go wrong there really.

Every horse has had problems, bad feet, too big, or over budget. Driving me crazy. I'm getting more and more tempted to buy a couple of yearlings, keep them at home and hope they don't kill themselves before I can sit on them.
 
Kylara said:
He's just sooo lovely.

If it was one of my clients I'd be shaking them and telling them to stop being crazy. But there's that little bit in my head saying maybe he'll be the one out of many that just keeps on going. The one everyone hopes to get! I just can't believe how not lame he is considering the state of his navicular bones.

Wouldn't spend a fortune on treatment if he broke badly, would be field retirement at home if field sound or pts if that's not possible.

It is true that the search is going terribly. Best so far has been looking for tiny pony to play with and go showing. But hard to go wrong there really.

Every horse has had problems, bad feet, too big, or over budget. Driving me crazy. I'm getting more and more tempted to buy a couple of yearlings, keep them at home and hope they don't kill themselves before I can sit on them.
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He might be so so lovely, but if his navicular bones look as bad as it sounds like they did then he may well be so so lame in a few months time!
 
Argh. I think sensible head says no. But he's so damn wonderful!
Not to mention the very non horsey mother who wants to part own who just wants to buy him (she wants to buy everything that looks nice!) and that is very much not helping.

I'm really looking for a forever horse, but I do have in the back of my mind the possibility of selling on if not suitable/capable. Krack C gelding would be a forever horse no matter what, simply because I'd never sell on a problem like that. I'll get my vet to talk to mother and help her understand the whole navicular thing.

Some horrible horrible person has send me a foal. Available October with donnerhall on both sides. Floaty, well put together (for a foal) might be a tad over at the knee but he's only a few months old. I'm genuinely wanting to buy him. I'm officially crazy. 6k on a foal. Absolutely mental, but DONNERHALL. I'm crazy. Don't need a foal, though would be so much fun to have one at home or could send to a friend with other babies.

Oh and I've found the most gorgeous yearling sec a colt. I want that too, and a 4 year old sec a. This is why I hate looking at pretty ponies. I can afford them all and they are so lovely!

On the actual riding a horse right now there has been no further progress. Except for 4 I don't like the look of and one I was all Yes and then it was 15k :(

Anyone else struggling with budget want to team up and rob a bank? ;)
 
Argh at this moment in time I've just looked at the video of the donnerhall foal and everything else has gone out of my mind. I desperately want him. He is gorgeous beyond all words and is DONNERHALL!
Also the two sec As I have found look wonderful and I want them too.

I think I am officially crazy. I now want a foal, a sec a yearling and a sec a 4 year old. Sec As both lovely and do well showing. And foal would be fantastic in 3 years. Can anyone confirm if I'm crazy? Feel free to PM for the foal video and pics. I'm properly losing the plot.
 
Wah woah woah

A possible broken horse
a foal
a sec a ryr
a sec 1 yearling

WTF haha.

I think you need to seriously decide what you WANT AND NEED
and only look at that type of advert

I'm really going out on a limb here but you sound a little broody :):)

Go back to the drawing board and decide what it is you want (and read my pm)
 
Haha. I am looking for a sec a as well. So not completely random! I specialise in ponies and thought it would be nice to buy one of my own to break bring on and show. Maybe find it a small child in 6 months or keep and go showing. I work with lots of them and it's always frustrating to put the work in and them to be little lr/fr ponies which don't go out showing or do much at all. Lovely things and I do enjoy riding them. The issue at the moment is I have found a nice looking 4 year old. Perfect for bringing on and seeing if would suit a showing child later on, but I saw the most stunning yearling colt as well. I'm not averse to having both as I have the set up at home for ponies so I could move them from my yard to home if necessary.

Big horse wise, this foal is lovely and no way could I afford the same horse at 3. I have enough contacts and space etc to pop him somewhere until he is bigger and can come to the yard for breaking. But in 3 years! Haha I'm a crazy person and will likely get vetoed on the foal. So far foal is the best looking thing I've seen!

I agree I am a crazy person. A very crazy horse person. I have also been denied kittens. After being promised kittens. So obviously the cute baby furry things need to appear somewhere! ;)
 
Kylara said:
Haha. I am looking for a sec a as well. So not completely random! I specialise in ponies and thought it would be nice to buy one of my own to break bring on and show. Maybe find it a small child in 6 months or keep and go showing. I work with lots of them and it's always frustrating to put the work in and them to be little lr/fr ponies which don't go out showing or do much at all. Lovely things and I do enjoy riding them. The issue at the moment is I have found a nice looking 4 year old. Perfect for bringing on and seeing if would suit a showing child later on, but I saw the most stunning yearling colt as well. I'm not averse to having both as I have the set up at home for ponies so I could move them from my yard to home if necessary.

Big horse wise, this foal is lovely and no way could I afford the same horse at 3. I have enough contacts and space etc to pop him somewhere until he is bigger and can come to the yard for breaking. But in 3 years! Haha I'm a crazy person and will likely get vetoed on the foal. So far foal is the best looking thing I've seen!

I agree I am a crazy person. A very crazy horse person. I have also been denied kittens. After being promised kittens. So obviously the cute baby furry things need to appear somewhere! ;)
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Haha you sounds a great/fun/crazy person just like me. God if I had my own land I would be in trouble lol


Do you have anything to ride, for you to compete enough to tick over, are you young or enough time in your lifes plan to lose 3yr competing?

If you had just enough money to buy the foal the sec a and another riding horse, would you? AND IF YES WHY.
 
Is it an option to buy 4 year old a to give you something to play with and take the pressure off *having* to have a riding horse so you can look at your leisure and be really fussy?
Would vetoe the navicular horse as total madness- as owner of a horse up to £12k in vet bills, most of them associated with lameness I'd at least want to start out with something sound next time round!
 
It is an option to buy the 4yr old a. Only £500,and pretty close so could take another A fan and have a look at him. The yearling is just stunning, will really be something special, and as is small I can go in hand showing which isn't something I have done much of.

I could have the foal. The main thing would be where to put him. If home I'd need to find a nanny. I could send him to a friend a county over and he could live with them for a couple of years, but I'd have to pay and he'd be just over an hour away. I could ask around locally if anyone had a mare/foal that needed some land and have them all at home. I'm loathe to take foal to the yard until 2/3 as not set up for babies. Or I could see if anyone had space locally for him to play with other babies.

I'd be happy playing with the 4 yr sec A. And I may look for a cheap heinz thing to do a bit of dressage/jumping, nothing special until foal was 2/3 and ready for long reining and backing. It would simply be logistics of foal as I wouldn't want him to be without other youngsters or a nanny. He is expensive, but I don't know how flexible people are on foal prices! Guessing insurance is doable but no idea on if need vetting or not, I hope not! Also was born April so available October, plenty of time to work something out. Would need to look up sire and dam though they look well put together, no idea of records.
 
Ok. Buy
4yr old and or yearling and foal and a cheap project to play riding club.(maybe an ex racer?)

Send foal somewhere with other youngster make sure they don't throw them in a big barn over winter

Then breath lol
 
But then there's 4 of them to feed/have trimmed/wormed/hay in winter/buy suitable tack/rugs for :o that would make me feel ill, lol- though on the plus side, if one broke you've got others to play with still!
Personally I'm not brave enough to invest £6k in a foal but appreciate many reach riding stage with no trouble at all!
 
chaps89 said:
But then there's 4 of them to feed/have trimmed/wormed/hay in winter/buy suitable tack/rugs for :o that would make me feel ill, lol- though on the plus side, if one broke you've got others to play with still!
Personally I'm not brave enough to invest £6k in a foal but appreciate many reach riding stage with no trouble at all!
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Yep but Kylara seems set on buying at least 3 lol. I just don't think she realises it fully yet
 
Haha. It is doable. Just. Maybe a little over budget but could try and get some money off.

I do have a client's Welsh type pony to work and could probably stick the yearling with a friend over the road, depends how colty it is as would be nice to keep him entire as he's so well put together and already won a few champs. If I got the yearling. I would really love the foal.

Tbh if I had the 4 yr then I probably wouldn't mind not having a big horse. Could always do some dressage with him! Haha. This could all be vetoed by the mother who rather wants something now and may not take kindly to foal suggestion. The biggest problem I forsee is having to pay for him to be somewhere else. I could have him at home and offer a space for another youngster with nanny? As that would save sending him away. Couldn't have more than one nanny and two youngsters though.

Think yearling a and foal could be mates? Haha then only need to find a nanny and could keep at home ;)

Only need one lot of tack for the 4yr old though. And would fit the other a too. So other tack in 3 years :p

Feet yes, but only need trimming on all options, I worm count and buy bulk for my yard anyway... And rugs... I have rugs ;) and who feeds natives?! Plenty of grass :D
 
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Yeah if you had foland yearling they could go together with a nanny to teach them manners, without a nanny I would worry about how they would grow up, manners wise.

Rest sounds good
 
Haha I am totally losing the plot.

The unforseen mother who is stumping some of the cash to be part owner is liable to poopoo younger furries, for no legit reason. Has no idea what I do as my job and seems to have a vague idea of my riding ability from way back at PC (when she ever turned up) but is convinced she knows all there is to know about horses.

I supposed to be on holiday in tuscany, but I got heatstroke on Monday and have not had much to do but look and fail to find horses. Much better today but have been abandoned - a max two hour trip stated at 1030 and it's now twenty to 5 *rolls eyes*

At this rate I'll have no space at my yard r my own beasty and will be stuck looking after everyone else's and will see them going out and competing whilst my parents fill up home with alpacas and donkeys (oh the horror!)
 
Should read "unhorsey mother"

Seen another 15k nice horse.

Going to try and organise a visit to godington stud to see a gelding, is 8k though and I don't know how flexible they may be.

Have asked for more info on the 4yr sec A.

I can just hear the mother going on about how I have no idea what I'm doing and should buy the horse with broken feet. Sigh. I really really like the look of the foal. Tempted to pop a picture of him up but I don't know :/
 
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If this person is really a friend surely they could loan him to you for a year to see if he stands up to the work. Take the shoes off him and let him self trim if you want long term soundness imo.
 
God, it's all kicking off!

No foal. If you are considering that, why not rethink an unbacked 3 year old? Or find a really nice, sensible 5 year old that is smart but not amazing to produce with a view to selling and giving yourself a bigger budget for your next forever horse? If you must have a whole herd, forget the load of As which will always be of limited value - buy two Irish beasts who are nice, easy people for 3.5k each, produce them, sell them both for 7.5k each and you have your 15k dressage horse budget! :)
 
Holding said:
God, it's all kicking off!

No foal. If you are considering that, why not rethink an unbacked 3 year old? Or find a really nice, sensible 5 year old that is smart but not amazing to produce with a view to selling and giving yourself a bigger budget for your next forever horse? If you must have a whole herd, forget the load of As which will always be of limited value - buy two Irish beasts who are nice, easy people for 3.5k each, produce them, sell them both for 7.5k each and you have your 15k dressage horse budget! :)
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sensible advice. go back to your first post and see what you wrote you wanted. I think it was along the lines of something to compete to show what you can do since you are going to be teaching and that you can hopefully take to advanced medium? your mother has given help so you can up your budget so forget the cute ponies as they will not be making you a huge amount of money and get to ireland and see whats at the sales or germany and do the same. germany the horses will come with vetting and xrays (but be careful because just because they are vetted does not mean its a clean vetting) and ireland you can get them vetted if they do not have a certificate. forget the donerhall lines as yes he was lovely and threw lovely foals but he is now going to be further back in the pedigree so look at whats in front of you regardless of the breeding. consider looking at 3yr olds that are not broken yet as you can be seen to be starting your own and it will not be that long before you can be out with one. stick to your original requirements before the stress kicked in and have them written down so that you can check off the must haves and have nots and decide on what compromise you are prepared to make on the would likes so your mind is concentrating on the right things instead of zooming around :)
 
Feeling less crazy today.

Still like the look of the 4yr A so hoping that might be my pony to play with.

A friend has just seen something from Chris Dyson (warks) that could be good, but I'm a little worried about how in budget it is.

By Don Kennedy who is himself by Donnerhall, but other than knowing he won his stallion grading thing against Sir D I don't know much about his offspring.

Mare is Stravinsky which I know nothing about.

5yr gelding, just backed, has walk and trot. Selling because overstocked. I don't know him though friend knows lots of people who have bought from him. So waiting on friend to send video but thought I'd ask people's thoughts on him and also on Don Kennedy. Is he just less sought after stallion? He's closer to D!
 
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If you're going to come to Warwickshire I know a couple of sweet 15.2ish lightly backed 4/5 year olds that are under your budget. If you're interested let me know and I'll send you the ads. The horses were where I used to keep my lad so I did know them before they were backed (can't comment on ridden) and they are both very sweet.
 
Stravinsky was gorgeous - he used to stand near me. He was in several different stud books. Thrown a lot of attractive horses I believe.
 
Ive asked friend to get video, info and full breeding so can see what is what. Just a niggle about how cheap it is...could be lovely. Picture friend screencapped from fb so it's not great quality! And black horse on black surface!

Saw a cheap D that looked nice, but 8 and done squat so...
 
Cheap D is gone, to some annoyance as seems did not contact anyone that asked for info but was popped up to get someone to confirm buying!

Going to see the 4yr a at some point.

The cheap donnerhall/Stravinsky looks nice, very green. Selling as moving yards and they mainly do ponies so easier to sell the big ones, hence price. Going to go see it.

Still super tempted by foal. Could live at home! And could offer space for someone else with a mare and foal to have theirs etc... Going to have a think and chat with parents (as it is their place that has the fields and stables haha and he couldn't come to my yard)

Sigh, all so crazy. Not helped by being in Italy! Yearling a is just fabulous but they do want quite a bit for him :/
 
Horse search continues with disappointments.

The nicely bred horse was nice, nothing special, and had a slight roach back and a fair few scars on his legs from the breeders. haven't had a chance to look over the video yet but I'm leaning closer to no than yes, as would need an awful lot of work (lazy and a fat) and hasn't ever had vax so :/

Friend's belgian WB sold and I never got to see video of it under saddle. Little annoyed but I refuse to buy unseen and though I can tell if it's a type I like but don't appreciate being asked wyh I won't decide from a couple of pictures. Never mind.

Should be having the vet reports and history for the PRE, but seems own vet has no idea about the lesion, so I'll take a look at the history and report and decide, but leaning towards no as I don't want to pay for xrays for the hind leg and the skin and leg will be uninsurable anyway.

Neighbouring barn has a lovely young horse, sounds nice and I'll probably sneak over for a look but 11k so over budget.

It's depressing as hell that there's little about and that that I do see is a bit meh. Saw another set of lovely pictures for a grey gelding. Lateral walk in the video and over budget at 15k.

All in all the search is not going well.

Bonus news is going to go see the lovely chesnut A and fingers crossed I'll get him and I'll break him in and go showing and dressage maybe do some jumps and keep looking for my dressage horse!

In regards to the gorgeous gelding by Krack C with the navicular, I'll let her no I can't risk it at 4k. But if she offers less than 2k I may go for it as he'd have a home for life, no matter how long that is as a couple of months of comps and enjoying would at least get my BD results rolling again. But doubtful as she'd be happy to campaign him herself.

So currently have one grey mare (irish) to sort a look at but might not be what I want, worth a look at least though.
 
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