Sandstone1
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Hunts like the Warwickshire are fast bringing about the demise of legal trail hunting if they could only but see it.
Hunting is in a spot of bother
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SilverLinings
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Apologies if this has already been posted about and I missed it:
In the Times yesterday they reported that the Quantock Staghounds have been videoed pursuing a stag (a field of riders and a pack of hounds) for three hours, before cornering it when it was exhausted and finally shooting it (there is a picture of this with the article). Apparently in 2020 the QS ended up in court on a charge of holding an illegal stag hunt but the case was dismissed as the judge said the people involved could not be clearly identified from the footage. They don't appear to have learnt anything from that experience. The photograph in yesterday's Times looks fairly clear, so hopefully those responsible this time will be convicted if they are proven to have been hunting illegally.
In the Times yesterday they reported that the Quantock Staghounds have been videoed pursuing a stag (a field of riders and a pack of hounds) for three hours, before cornering it when it was exhausted and finally shooting it (there is a picture of this with the article). Apparently in 2020 the QS ended up in court on a charge of holding an illegal stag hunt but the case was dismissed as the judge said the people involved could not be clearly identified from the footage. They don't appear to have learnt anything from that experience. The photograph in yesterday's Times looks fairly clear, so hopefully those responsible this time will be convicted if they are proven to have been hunting illegally.
Gallop_Away
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I do not now, nor have I ever, chosen to hunt with an illegal pack, something I have repeatedly stated throughout this thread. Nor would I ever take part in cubbing or any form of illegal hunting which I find appalling.
I completely agree legal hunting as a whole needs to shout the loudest when condemning illegal hunting. Do you not think we are outraged that their continued selfish actions are bringing an end to a legal sport that we love? I agree that the Warwickshire should be suspended with immediate effect.
I will also state again that it has been made very clear by myself and other posters on this particular thread what we also think about illegal hunting.
Quigleyandme
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I’m confused. The damning footage upthread of a bagged (presumably) fox has been identified in the ITV link as the Seavington Hunt whose country is in Somerset and Dorset. The Avon and Somerset Police are investigating. What has the Warwickshire Hunt done?
skinnydipper
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See post 3737
Tiddlypom
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The Seavington were caught by covert filming releasing a bagged fox.
The Warwickshire were caught by covert filming holding up a corn field and trying to head off a fleeing fox by riding at it. In other words old style and now completely illegal cubbing.
The Warwickshire were caught by covert filming holding up a corn field and trying to head off a fleeing fox by riding at it. In other words old style and now completely illegal cubbing.
Quigleyandme
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I‘ve seen the footage now thanks. Nothing ambiguous or accidental there.
Tiddlypom
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If the anti reports are true, the Warwickshire are still hunting.
So the new disciplinary body has shown its true colours, then. Get caught out by covert filming blatantly cubbing? Oh, do carry on ?.
Not much of a surprise, that.
So the new disciplinary body has shown its true colours, then. Get caught out by covert filming blatantly cubbing? Oh, do carry on ?.
Not much of a surprise, that.
Dexter
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Its such a shame. Hunting is going to be completley banned. They are just too short sighted to see it.
Sandstone1
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Apparently Police are appealing for witnesses to the illegal cubbing. As they have it clearly on film I cant see how they need more witnesses? The footage is a long piece unedited. The Warwickshire are still hunting.....
Koweyka
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Gallop_Away
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Horrid behaviour from another so called "animal lover". Not condoning if this hunt was illegally hunting or trespassing, but driving her car at horses and hounds and then kicking a hound..... awful behaviour and not at all acceptable.
https://www.facebook.com/1000128386...B1JLSHzGaY34gUUnKzpeo3s6GQrghznnbmarfBpmkEXl/
Totally unacceptable behaviour and I'm glad to see that shropshire hunt sabs at least have completely condemned this behaviour.
But still sad to see other sab groups are actually defending this horrid woman...
https://www.facebook.com/1000128386...B1JLSHzGaY34gUUnKzpeo3s6GQrghznnbmarfBpmkEXl/
Totally unacceptable behaviour and I'm glad to see that shropshire hunt sabs at least have completely condemned this behaviour.
But still sad to see other sab groups are actually defending this horrid woman...
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Tiddlypom
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That woman was well out of order. There are rough elements on both sides of the hunting divide. The hound did pee on her leg, though 
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As credited above, the local sab group has rightly condemned her actions. There is no excuse for such behaviour.
.As credited above, the local sab group has rightly condemned her actions. There is no excuse for such behaviour.
Gallop_Away
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The hound was clearly a very good judge of character....
Steerpike
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Genuine question as I do not know if this happens, does the hunting fraternity not have someone who goes around checking the welfare of those hunts under their umbrella?
https://www.cambrian-news.co.uk/new...ASz27R_cutxAPact634G8XlnLc#Echobox=1665475689
https://www.cambrian-news.co.uk/new...ASz27R_cutxAPact634G8XlnLc#Echobox=1665475689
YorksG
Over the hill and far awa
Given that this was not a named hunt, I'm supposing that they are not a registered pack and so not affiliated with any hunting organisation.
Tiddlypom
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The pack has been named as the Dwyryd Hunt in other reports. It is/was a registered pack under the auspices of the MFHA, though not one of the well known packs.
I posted this back on 19/11/21 on another thread.
I posted this back on 19/11/21 on another thread.
Clodagh
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They do, yes. As with all inspections though I dare say it all looked great on the day it needed to.
The hounds the RSPCA took, I wonder if they will be rehomed? I assume not until after the court case?
minesadouble
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I am very doubtful the hounds will be rehomed, I'd be surprised if most of them aren't PTS long before the case comes to court, and unsurprised if the RSPCA claims keep for them after their demise. Remember the Arab horses anyone?!.
Velcrobum
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It is not the first time Mr Thomas has been in trouble!!
https://theecologist.org/2018/feb/0...sent-prison-landmark-case-reports-ecomontague
https://huntingleaks.is/2021/11/17/...x-hunters-who-are-still-registered-with-mfha/
https://theecologist.org/2018/feb/0...sent-prison-landmark-case-reports-ecomontague
https://huntingleaks.is/2021/11/17/...x-hunters-who-are-still-registered-with-mfha/
Steerpike
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I'm actually a bit flummoxed why the MHFA would allow of think it's a good idea someone with so many criminal convictions to be a member in charge of a hunt.
Edited for spelling!
Edited for spelling!
Gallop_Away
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Just seen some very shocking footage on social media of a Sab being hit by a car. It is apparently hunt support driving and it looks like it was very much intentional.
*DO NOT WATCH IF YOU DON'T HAVE A VERY STRONG STOMACH*
https://fb.watch/go_qsW3uJH/
I am no fan of sabs but I felt absolutely sick watching that! This madness must cease before someone on either side is killed.
*DO NOT WATCH IF YOU DON'T HAVE A VERY STRONG STOMACH*
https://fb.watch/go_qsW3uJH/
I am no fan of sabs but I felt absolutely sick watching that! This madness must cease before someone on either side is killed.
Koweyka
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It’s sickening, it should be treated as attempted murder by the landowner.
Gallop_Away
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Koweyka is the poor woman OK do you know?
limestonelil
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Must be attempted murder, so deliberate.
So appalling. Hope the lady recovers. Words fail me.
So appalling. Hope the lady recovers. Words fail me.
Tiddlypom
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Much more than a glancing blow, and whether or not the car driver intentionally mowed the sab down they cannot have been unaware of what they had done ?. But they drove off at speed.
Gallop_Away, I fervently hope that I am wrong on this, but I have been fearing a human fatality near here for some time now. Not involving my local pack, and not the hunt featured on that clip, but one not far away.
Gallop_Away, I fervently hope that I am wrong on this, but I have been fearing a human fatality near here for some time now. Not involving my local pack, and not the hunt featured on that clip, but one not far away.
CrunchieBoi
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That's attempted murder, no getting away from that.
Hope the vile twat has the whole library thrown at them book by book and brick by brick.
Hope the vile twat has the whole library thrown at them book by book and brick by brick.
Tiddlypom
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According to the Daily Mail on line, the sab (a woman in her 40s) is in hospital and her injuries are not life threatening.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...FW1iFbiWAhba5MEiDUhQCsZdScLbU5d9qFtKTnXCOWZio
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...FW1iFbiWAhba5MEiDUhQCsZdScLbU5d9qFtKTnXCOWZio
Burnttoast
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Sabs already have been killed by hunt supporters' vehicles, and no charges brought, so I don't imagine it will be any different now. Perhaps hunts should be disbanded when this kind of thing happens on their patch.
Clodagh
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That was awful to see. Poor woman, was the car driver arrested? He can hardly have not noticed that he drove into someone at speed.