Hunting is in a spot of bother

[Koweyka]

Matrix the Cat died, just no words that I can say on here to describe how much I hate hunting.

His owners words …

It breaks me to say that Matrix sadly passed away today. For such a small creature he gave up the biggest fight!

He didn't deserve to lose his life to the Hunt. He didn't deserve to feel terrified or have to fight off several large Fox Hounds. He didn't deserve to spend the entire day alone, scared and in pain until we got home. He didn't deserve to leave his family. We don't deserve this pain.

I will get justice for Matrix and I will make these ******* pay!!!

 

[Clodagh]

I can’t imagine how they feel. It would be very hard to cope with that sort of loss and trauma. I think what if it was one of my dogs, how much we love our pets.

 

[Burnttoast]

Matrix the Cat died, just no words that I can say on here to describe how much I hate hunting.

His owners words …

It breaks me to say that Matrix sadly passed away today. For such a small creature he gave up the biggest fight!

He didn't deserve to lose his life to the Hunt. He didn't deserve to feel terrified or have to fight off several large Fox Hounds. He didn't deserve to spend the entire day alone, scared and in pain until we got home. He didn't deserve to leave his family. We don't deserve this pain.

I will get justice for Matrix and I will make these ******* pay!!!

It's just utterly horrific.

 

[Sossigpoker]

I can't imagine the rage and grief his family will be feeling. It's bad enough losing your pet , but to have him torn apart and die in awful terror and agony is just heart breaking.

 

[Burnttoast]

If a dog in my charge did something like this I don't know what I would do with myself. The guilt would live with me forever. And yet this pack will be out again next week. They are a different calibre of person, people who are happy to continue in the same way after something like this. Their ability to empathise with the pet owner seems entirely absent.

 

[Clodagh]

If a dog in my charge did something like this I don't know what I would do with myself. The guilt would live with me forever. And yet this pack will be out again next week. They are a different calibre of person, people who are happy to continue in the same way after something like this. Their ability to empathise with the pet owner seems entirely absent.

The hound that led the attack and any directly implicated will probably not be out next week.
I had a rescue lurcher that got involved in a fight between two other dogs, one a retired hound. Her and the Labrador killed the hound. I never, ever forgave her for it and it took me a year to even look her in the face again. It’s a horrible thing to deal with.

 

[Sandstone1]

The hound that led the attack and any directly implicated will probably not be out next week.
I had a rescue lurcher that got involved in a fight between two other dogs, one a retired hound. Her and the Labrador killed the hound. I never, ever forgave her for it and it took me a year to even look her in the face again. It’s a horrible thing to deal with.

Its not the hounds fault.... Its the idiots that are supposedly in charge of them. If that had happened to a animal of mine it would not be the hounds I would be going after.

 

[Clodagh]

Its not the hounds fault.... Its the idiots that are supposedly in charge of them. If that had happened to a animal of mine it would not be the hounds I would be going after.

I’m impressed I’m not on UI! ?

 

[Clodagh]

Its not the hounds fault.... Its the idiots that are supposedly in charge of them. If that had happened to a animal of mine it would not be the hounds I would be going after.

Cats do get killed by dogs. Sometimes it is an accident. Dogs should be well enough trained not to attack inappropriately and if they do, in a pack situation, what you can do at that very minute is limited.

 

[Sandstone1]

Cats do get killed by dogs. Sometimes it is an accident. Dogs should be well enough trained not to attack inappropriately and if they do, in a pack situation, what you can do at that very minute is limited.

If a hunt can not control its hounds it should not be out. Its as simple as that.

 

[Sandstone1]

I’m impressed I’m not on UI! ?

I must have missed you.

 

[Clodagh]

If a hunt can not control its hounds it should not be out. Its as simple as that.

Well it isn’t really. But I expect I’m on UI now, you do t seem to like dissenting views.

 

[Tiddlypom]

Cats do get killed by dogs. Sometimes it is an accident. Dogs should be well enough trained not to attack inappropriately and if they do, in a pack situation, what you can do at that very minute is limited.

Quite. Once the attack is underway it's almost impossible to stop.

But the fault here lies in the poor training that led up to this.

That hunt and all its activities should have been put under immediate suspension pending the hunting authorities launching a full investigation. You simply can't have packs of hounds out killing pets.

It's nowhere near good enough to cull a few hounds and carry on as if nothing happened.

But we all know now, even those people who had hoped for better, that the new governing body is completely useless and is not interested in reforming hunting at all.

 

[Sandstone1]

Well it isn’t really. But I expect I’m on UI now, you do t seem to like dissenting views.

Im sorry but it is. If your dog killed a cat or small dog on a walk you would be in trouble.

 

[Sandstone1]

Well it isn’t really. But I expect I’m on UI now, you do t seem to like dissenting views.

Yes you are going on UI Not because I do not like dissenting views but because of the excuses for out of control and illegal hunting.

 

[AmyMay]

Matrix the Cat died, just no words that I can say on here to describe how much I hate hunting.

His owners words …

It breaks me to say that Matrix sadly passed away today. For such a small creature he gave up the biggest fight!

He didn't deserve to lose his life to the Hunt. He didn't deserve to feel terrified or have to fight off several large Fox Hounds. He didn't deserve to spend the entire day alone, scared and in pain until we got home. He didn't deserve to leave his family. We don't deserve this pain.

I will get justice for Matrix and I will make these ******* pay!!!

Devastating for the owner. But actually ‘thank God’. This injuries were devastating.

 

[AmyMay]

Well it isn’t really. But I expect I’m on UI now, you do t seem to like dissenting views.

But surely it is as simple as that.

 

[Clodagh]

Im sorry but it is. If your dog killed a cat or small dog on a walk you would be in trouble.

Of course, and so you should be. I didn’t say you shouldn’t?

 

[Clodagh]

But surely it is as simple as that.

I accept you’ve only owned one dog and it is a pet breed (no problem with that) but many people with lurchers, GSD’s, bullies, etc have animals that may, if it all went wrong, attack a cat. As I said above my pet lurcher killed another dog. It was really, really awful.

 

[Clodagh]

Quite. Once the attack is underway it's almost impossible to stop.

But the fault here lies in the poor training that led up to this.

That hunt and all its activities should have been put under immediate suspension pending the hunting authorities launching a full investigation. You simply can't have packs of hounds out killing pets.

It's nowhere near good enough to cull a few hounds and carry on as if nothing happened.

But we all know now, even those people who had hoped for better, that the new governing body is completely useless and is not interested in reforming hunting at all.

I agree with all of that. Except culling the ringleader should fix the problem if on the whole they are well trained

 

[ycbm]

But surely it is as simple as that.

It is for me. If hunts can't stop their hounds killing cats they must not go out in areas where domestic cats are expected to be living.

If a dog walker in charge of 5 dogs was responsible for those dogs killing a cat, or dog, they'd lose their business. Why do dog laws not apply equally to a pack of hounds?

I speak having drag hunted for years until a few years ago, and I never saw or heard of a pack of drag hounds chasing a cat, yet we were often in areas of significant housing density. Why is that?

 

[stangs]

Well it isn’t really.

Is it not? If a hunt can't control its hounds and those hounds attack someone's animal, that makes said hounds 'dangerously out of control', which is a crime.

 

[AmyMay]

I accept you’ve only owned one dog and it is a pet breed (no problem with that) but many people with lurchers, GSD’s, bullies, etc have animals that may, if it all went wrong, attack a cat. As I said above my pet lurcher killed another dog. It was really, really awful.

No need to be quite so condescending….

Hunts are supposed to be able to call hounds off a fox. The same applies to a ‘pet’

So it really is as simple as that.

 

[Clodagh]

It is for me. If hunts can't stop their hounds killing cats they must not go out in areas where domestic cats are expected to be living.

If a dog walker in charge of 5 dogs was responsible for those dogs killing a cat, or dog, they'd lose their business. Why do dog laws not apply equally to a pack of hounds?

I speak having drag hunted for years until a few years ago, and I never saw or heard of a pack of drag hounds chasing a cat, yet we were often in areas of significant housing density. Why is that?

I hunted fox for years and years and never saw a cat hunted either. Once saw a feral up a tree in a wood, hounds were interested were called off and rated and moved on.

 

[Burnttoast]

Devastating for the owner. But actually ‘thank God’. This injuries were devastating.

I thought that too. When next door's dog got my chooks I didn't even stop to think about the vet for the injured survivor. I just wanted to stop her suffering and thankfully I was able to do that in a moment. Not sure I could do similar for one of the cats but I wouldn't be striving to save them in such circumstances.

I agree with all of that. Except culling the ringleader should fix the problem if on the whole they are well trained

Except that the ringleader must have been considered to be well trained, until they weren't. In such circumstances what are the odds of another hound taking up that mantle? Unknowable, so why should they be out without restraint?

 

[Clodagh]

No need to be quite so condescending….

Hunts are supposed to be able to call hounds off a fox. The same applies to a ‘pet’

So it really is as simple as that.

It wasn’t intended to be condescending but dogs with drive can be very quick. You don’t know they didn’t call hounds off immediately, sadly it would not take long for fatal injury to occur.
I am not supporting that it happened, I have every sympathy with the owner, huntings governing body needs to do something appropriate and I hope legal action by the owner is successful.

 

[YorksG]

I'm sure that there are many huntsmen tearing their hair out at the idiots who allow hounds to riot.

 

[Millionwords]

I'm sure that there are many huntsmen tearing their hair out at the idiots who allow hounds to riot.

Not aimed at you, but platitudes do nothing.

 

[skinnydipper]

Matrix. Photo from owner's facebook page

 

[YorksG]

Not aimed at you, but platitudes do nothing.

Then why quote me?