Hunting is in a spot of bother

[Fransurrey]

This one?
Not even surprised by the depths the knuckle draggers sink to.
https://fb.watch/hwBF0PGtRi/

No surprise that they go straight from the pub to their cars. Same happens near us. All the police would have to do is turn up there on a hunt day (or shoot - they're the same round here) to triple their drink drive figures.

 

[Chianti]

This one?
Not even surprised by the depths the knuckle draggers sink to.
https://fb.watch/hwBF0PGtRi/

Yes. I don't know what's the most upsetting, the laughter, the fact they think it's acceptable in broad day light, the smug look on his face? It's like going back to the 1970s. The poor man it was aimed at. I can't imagine what it must be like to be put in that situation.

 

[Sossigpoker]

Yes. I don't know what's the most upsetting, the laughter, the fact they think it's acceptable in broad day light, the smug look on his face? It's like going back to the 1970s. The poor man it was aimed at. I can't imagine what it must be like to be put in that situation.

The ironic thing is that racism has been linked to lower intelligence , so the moron thinking he's terribly clever by saying to a non-white person they belong in a zoo ,.essentially, is just confirming their own, low intellectual and most likely educational status.

In any circumstances saying such a thing would result in a chat with the coppers- but I guess these scum are excluded from those laws as well.

 

[Millionwords]

Imagine as a hunt knowingly wasting police time to this extent, and considering yourself in the right.

The same group had all 4 of their tyres slashed by a hunt recently too.

https://www.itv.com/news/2022-12-24...armed-police-officers-stop-fox-hunt-saboteurs

 

[Burnttoast]

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news...ing-of-hunting-act-and-vows-to-close-loophole

 

[ycbm]

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news...ing-of-hunting-act-and-vows-to-close-loophole

Unfair on legitimate trail hunts, but predictable (and predicted many times on this forum!). Legitimate trail hunts need to act decisively to prevent losing their sport.

Hint:

Stop using fox scent to lay trails!
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[sakura]

Yes, unfortunate for the legitimate but predictable. All this crying of “well sabs do x, y , z” meanwhile public opinion continues to solidify against all hunting with each atrocity.

Do better, or lose it all.

 

[Millionwords]

I saw a compilation video today of the Grove & Rufford, all seperate incidents of hunting foxes, and hunt followers;
- smashing vehicle windows with a hammer,
- slashing tyres,
- deliberately ramming into sab vehicles with a pickup...

Then there's actions from other hunts, the mowing down of a pedestrian sab, assaults, other tyre slashing, riding sabs down, hitting them with crops, racial abuse, fat abuse, physical assault, smashing of vehicle windscreens, theft of property...all captured on film...

But sabs do x y z (despite the evidence seemingly being much more difficult to track down?)...so its alright then?

 

[Tiddlypom]

Local pack's meltdown following its exceptionally unwise appointment of new huntsman for the current season continues. All we residents can do is to watch on with our jaws dropping open even more as the saga continues.

Whether or not to continue with an individual who has just been found slam dunk guilty in court of illegal hunting should not even be an option for the hunt - the governing body should have imposed an immediate ban on that individual continuing in the employ of a registered pack. But we now know how effective the governing body is at driving out the bad elements from hunting ?.

Local pack has pulled out of attending their Boxing Day fixture at short notice. Most of us have probably tried, at one time or another, to evade an invitation by citing illness. Best get your facts straight.

A pack which was out on a joint meet with another pack on Christmas Eve has to pull out of the Boxing Day meet because of kennel cough, but will then apparently be cleared to hunt two days later at the children's meet ?‍.





Erm, the isolation period for kennel cough is, according to the PDSA and other knowledgable sources, 2/3 weeks, not days.

https://www.pdsa.org.uk/pet-help-and-advice/pet-health-hub/conditions/kennel-cough

• Keep your dog away from others - remember your dog will be very contagious whilst they are poorly and can continue to spread kennel cough for 2-3 weeks after their symptoms have cleared. During this time, keep them away from other dogs and public spaces.

The antis have all sorts of theories as to why they really pulled out of the Boxing Day meet, but a convenient and apparently remarkably brief case of kennel cough is not one of them.

 

[Millionwords]

"
BREAKING: We've had a report of five hounds being hit by a car as a hunt crossed a main road near Okehampton, Devon today.

They are believed to have been from the Eggesford Hunt.

Please get in touch if you have any further information."

 

[mariew]

I saw a compilation video today of the Grove & Rufford, all seperate incidents of hunting foxes, and hunt followers;
- smashing vehicle windows with a hammer,
- slashing tyres,
- deliberately ramming into sab vehicles with a pickup...

Then there's actions from other hunts, the mowing down of a pedestrian sab, assaults, other tyre slashing, riding sabs down, hitting them with crops, racial abuse, fat abuse, physical assault, smashing of vehicle windscreens, theft of property...all captured on film...

But sabs do x y z (despite the evidence seemingly being much more difficult to track down?)...so its alright then?

I don't think anyone has ever said that this kind of behaviour is ok from anyone, hunt person, sab or anyone else?

 

[suestowford]

Nothing would surprise me about the Eggesford Hunt. They must have their own parking space at the local courthouse, they are in it so often!

 

[Millionwords]

I don't think anyone has ever said that this kind of behaviour is ok from anyone, hunt person, sab or anyone else?

Anything negative in the news or social media brings out hundreds of comments by hunt supporters saying "but sabs do x y z" as if it nullifies the acts by hunts.

 

[mariew]

Anything negative in the news or social media brings out hundreds of comments by hunt supporters saying "but sabs do x y z" as if it nullifies the acts by hunts.

I wouldn't know whether violence is approved of elsewhere as I tend to stay away from any other social media in relation to hunting. I haven't seen it here on this thread though so unlikely to need to worry about anyone agreeing with those kind of actions from anyone here.

 

[paddy555]

there is a request on my FB from someone whose son and 7m pregnant partner pulled in to let the hunt pass and the huntsmam whipped theor windscreen and smashed it. They are requesting witnesses. I think it is Great Torrington area. Anyone know any more about this?

 

[Dexter]

They are disgusting cretins.

Thats a pretty disgusting word to be using to describe someone, no matter what the have done.

 

[Millionwords]

"
BREAKING: We've had a report of five hounds being hit by a car as a hunt crossed a main road near Okehampton, Devon today.

They are believed to have been from the Eggesford Hunt.

Please get in touch if you have any further information."

One of the terrier men drove at high speed into a sab with his quad bike. Knocking them into the air.

https://fb.watch/hFIuU5GjLF/

 

[Koweyka]

Thats a pretty disgusting word to be using to describe someone, no matter what the have done.

Actually that’s being rather kind.

 

[sakura]

Thats a pretty disgusting word to be using to describe someone, no matter what the have done.

To be fair, it’s much kinder than the racist language used in the video koweyka was responding to.

 

[FestiveG]

I don't agree that language which is discriminatory to people with a disability is "better" or "kinder" than racist language, but the fact that some posters do speaks volumes about those posters.

 

[Koweyka]

I swear this thread is like stepping into the “Twilight Zone” at times.

 

[sakura]

I don't agree that language which is discriminatory to people with a disability is "better" or "kinder" than racist language, but the fact that some posters do speaks volumes about those posters.

I think we should go back to what this thread is about.

 

[Koweyka]

I think we should go back to what this thread is about.

It says it all when the pro hunt start spitting their dummies for racist bigoted disgusting hunters/ hunt support being called out as such (vulgar and insensitive) yet completely ignore all the other context of this thread.

 

[sbloom]

At least two phone ins on LBC yesterday. What is it with equestrianism and social licence? Why do so few understand the concept?!

 

[ycbm]

I don't understand your question SB, can you give some more detail?
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[Koweyka]

Local pack's meltdown following its exceptionally unwise appointment of new huntsman for the current season continues. All we residents can do is to watch on with our jaws dropping open even more as the saga continues.

Whether or not to continue with an individual who has just been found slam dunk guilty in court of illegal hunting should not even be an option for the hunt - the governing body should have imposed an immediate ban on that individual continuing in the employ of a registered pack. But we now know how effective the governing body is at driving out the bad elements from hunting ?.

Local pack has pulled out of attending their Boxing Day fixture at short notice. Most of us have probably tried, at one time or another, to evade an invitation by citing illness. Best get your facts straight.

A pack which was out on a joint meet with another pack on Christmas Eve has to pull out of the Boxing Day meet because of kennel cough, but will then apparently be cleared to hunt two days later at the children's meet ?‍.



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Erm, the isolation period for kennel cough is, according to the PDSA and other knowledgable sources, 2/3 weeks, not days.

https://www.pdsa.org.uk/pet-help-and-advice/pet-health-hub/conditions/kennel-cough

• Keep your dog away from others - remember your dog will be very contagious whilst they are poorly and can continue to spread kennel cough for 2-3 weeks after their symptoms have cleared. During this time, keep them away from other dogs and public spaces.

The antis have all sorts of theories as to why they really pulled out of the Boxing Day meet, but a convenient and apparently remarkably brief case of kennel cough is not one of them.

He is going at the end of the season apparently, it’s disgusting he wasn’t immediately sanctioned and given the boot, though he clearly took the rap for a lot more people so he is being “looked” after.

 

[Dexter]

Actually that’s being rather kind.

Wow.

It says it all when the pro hunt start spitting their dummies for racist bigoted disgusting hunters/ hunt support being called out as such (vulgar and insensitive) yet completely ignore all the other context of this thread.

I am not pro illegal hunting. In fact I am leaning very heavily towards it being banned as the best option, I think I've commented on here 2 maybe 3 times, and just read it as an interesting debate.

My experience of sabs has been that they are violent thugs who have their own agenda, and I'd been impressed to hear about how you say you behave. But what you said was disgusting. Given this and your defence of your behaviour, I think its quite clear what sort of person you are, and vulgar and insensitive is a good descripion. And in doing that, the growing support I had for you is gone.

 

[Dexter]

To be fair, it’s much kinder than the racist language used in the video koweyka was responding to.

Is it? It might be for you, it certainly wont be for everyone.

 

[sakura]

Is it? It might be for you, it certainly wont be for everyone.

And that’s fine, we all have our own personal lines when it comes to language. So can we get back to discussing hunts breaking the law? I apologise for responding to that line of discussion.

This thread isn’t about sabs behaviour and I don’t think it’s very helpful to insinuate anything about any poster - either side of the debate.

Labour have announced their plan to effectively ban trail hunting. Given their current likelihood of potentially winning the next GE, that seems an important thing to discuss on this thread.

 

[Koweyka]

Wow.


I am not pro illegal hunting. In fact I am leaning very heavily towards it being banned as the best option, I think I've commented on here 2 maybe 3 times, and just read it as an interesting debate.

My experience of sabs has been that they are violent thugs who have their own agenda, and I'd been impressed to hear about how you say you behave. But what you said was disgusting. Given this and your defence of your behaviour, I think it’s quite clear what sort of person you are, and vulgar and insensitive is a good descripion. And in doing that, the growing support I had for you is gone.

Wow, well I am sorry if calling out racist behaviour offends you so much, I find it utterly bizarre that you would rather attack the people condemning it therefore by proxy supporting the racist behaviour. If that’s the sort of support I have then more than happy to lose it.

Cretin… from Oxford Dictionary modern informal …. A stupid, vulgar, or insensitive person. I think that description of men openly being racist is a very apt description of their behaviour.