Is there anyone on HHO who disagrees with foxhunting?

Fiagai said:
* So Glad you showed your Bias btw...good to know (that was just too easy imo)

* Yes it is Horse and Hound - I would be quite surprised if Cycling Fanatics turned up On Formula One Forum and then demanded to know who disagreed with Motor Car racing and that just because it was the Formula One Forum they were not in "anyway supportive or interested in Formula One": Hint - Read the Forum title again. Just because it is become somehow fashionable to bang on about ickle foxies and nasty people who hunt, does not make it acceptable to do so here

* I refer you once again to the law as it stands LINK Why the post? Whats your agenda? Belong to a rabid anti group by any chance?
*Reading some of the the replies on here plenty of posters are NOT aware of what the laws are and from what you have written I understand that you appear to occupy the "because I says it is...it is!" brigade

* Just because I dont like Competing (for example) does not mean that I am going to start a S*** Stirring Competition for posters about it and S*** Stirring is not a hobby to be proud off btw...
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Errr - have you asked me what my opinion of fox hunting is?!! I don't recall that I have given my opinion on this thread. And no I don't belong to any group. You are very touchy by the way?!!!
 
Moomin1 said:
1) It's not in the hunting forum because, GUESS WHAT...the majority of people who access the hunting forum will have a biased opinion towards hunting!!
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Moomin1 said:
Errr - have you asked me what my opinion of fox hunting is?!! I don't recall that I have given my opinion on this thread. And no I don't belong to any group. You are very touchy by the way?!!!
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Lol Your Bias/Opinion is quite clear Moonin...even a blind bat would not fail to notice the obvious ... If you dont belong to a group you are doing a very good job of behaving exactly like these collectives of benighted individuals

Oh my little full moon - how about simply trying some proper logical argument and not attempting to stir things and rise people eh? Its much nicer.
 
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Fiagai said:
Lol Your Bias/Opinion is quite clear Moonin...even a blind bat would not fail to notice the obvious ... If you dont belong to a group you are doing a very good job of behaving exactly like these collectives of benighted individuals

Oh my little full moon - how about simply trying some proper logical argument and not attempting to stir things and rise people eh? Its much nicer.
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If you're not careful you're going to end up with high blood pressure!!! Chill out! ;);)
 
Moomin1 said:
If you're not careful you're going to end up with high blood pressure!!! Chill out!
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haha you will find that those who hunt actually have little or no blood pressure...

I will take it you wish to stop stirring then?...the spoon can be passed on to a more benign use perhaps
 
Fiagai said:
haha you will find that those who hunt actually have little or no blood pressure...

I will take it you wish to stop stirring then?...the spoon can be passed on to a more benign use perhaps
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If it makes you feel better then I will never ask another question which MAY insinuate a disagreement with what you believe in. I merely asked a question which is a valid one. Are people not allowed to disagree with hunting? I am not agreeing or disagreeing either way - just asking. You are obviously very offending by people who question hunting in general. As for you saying that illegal hunting doesn't go on - I'm afraid you are either naive or lying. Not saying you do it - but it goes on very commonly. No amount of attempted persuasion will tell me otherwise because I know first hand it does!

*offended
 
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Fiagai said:
...So if this is true then humans should be controlled by "Mother Nature"...odd the other 7 Billion humans and I obviously live on another planet somewhere else .
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I really haven't got a clue what your objection to my comment is. Since when did 7 billion humans all agree with fox hunting and so forth? Did I miss something?

And, since when did mankind have control over Mother Nature? we can't control weather systems? the tides, the phases of the moon - can we?

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Moomin1 said:
If it makes you feel better then I will never ask another question which MAY insinuate a disagreement with what you believe in. I merely asked a question which is a valid one. Are people not allowed to disagree with hunting? I am not agreeing or disagreeing either way - just asking. You are obviously very offending by people who question hunting in general. As for you saying that illegal hunting doesn't go on - I'm afraid you are either naive or lying. Not saying you do it - but it goes on very commonly. No amount of attempted persuasion will tell me otherwise because I know first hand it does!

*offended
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Dear moonin

If you are going to propose a question then may I suggest that you do not start from a basis of cleary stated bias (eg: Is there anyone on HHO who disagrees with foxhunting?) That is a clearly stated opinion on your part in other words a "Loaded Question". A more reasonable method (and fair to forum members) would be to put together a poll and perhaps more equitably ask "what do you think about foxhunting? By using the loaded question as you did in this instance you deliberatly or otherwise started a flame war scenario. I will reiterate this is the Horse and Hound Forum not Bambi Vegans United. Respect for other forum members comes within the remit of the nature of the forum. There are extremists who believe that people should not ride horses and that all animals shoulh be released from human captivity - interesting as these arguments are H&H is perhaps not the most suitable forum for this. You MAY believe that illegal hunting goes on and you by the way are entitled to your opinion However to persuede others there needs to be proof or at least reasoned argument Not just a belief that the world is in fact flat...

Please dont be offended...it simply all boils down to logic at the end of the day....
 
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Moomin1 said:
If it makes you feel better then I will never ask another question which MAY insinuate a disagreement with what you believe in. I merely asked a question which is a valid one. Are people not allowed to disagree with hunting? I am not agreeing or disagreeing either way - just asking. You are obviously very offending by people who question hunting in general. As for you saying that illegal hunting doesn't go on - I'm afraid you are either naive or lying. Not saying you do it - but it goes on very commonly. No amount of attempted persuasion will tell me otherwise because I know first hand it does!

*offended
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Moomin, you are such a troll! Go back under your bridge! :D :D
 
And, to add my 2 cents, I'm indifferent to foxhunting (just to be awkward!).

I don't like it, wouldn't want to do it, but feel if that's what people want to do, let them. I don't have the energy to get into a big debate about it because both sides make very valid points.

I'm one of those annoying people who sit on the fence about everything, need to grow a backbone really! x
 
Fiagai said:
Dear moonin

If you are going to propose a hypothesis then may I suggest that you do not start from a basis of cleary stated bias (eg: Is there anyone on HHO who disagrees with foxhunting?) That is a clearly stated opinion on your part in other words a "loaded Question". A more reasonable method (and fair to forum members) would be to put together a poll and perhaps more equitably ask "what do you think about foxhunting? By using the loaded question as you did in this instance you deliberatly or otherwise started a flame war scenario. I will reiterate this is the Horse and Hound Forum not Bambi Vegetarians United. Respect for other forum members comes within the remit of the nature of the forum. There are extremists who believe that people should not ride horses and that all animals shoulh be released from human captivity - interesting as these arguments are H&H is perhaps not the most suitable forum for this. You MAY believe that illegal hunting goes on and you by the way are entitled to your opinion However to persuede others there needs to be proof or at least reasoned argument Not just a belief that the world is in fact flat...

Please dont be offended...it simply all boils down to logic at the end of the day....
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Yet you are not logical at all. Your logic is that anyone who comes onto H&H must be a hunt supporter rather than a 'vegan bambi loving anti hunting extremist'. You cannot possibly see that there are plenty of people on here that have a varied range of thoughts on hunting. You don't seem to be able to accept this. The whole fact that I only posted the thread and no more before you responded by accusing me of stirring and being an anti hunt group member, despite a large number of people expressing their disapproval of hunting, says everything. Maybe I have 'stirred' a lot of opinions and got answers to my question. Problem? Or should I just lay back and accept that we should all keep quiet if we don't accept your views?
 
Fiagai said:
Dear moonin

If you are going to propose a question then may I suggest that you do not start from a basis of cleary stated bias (eg: Is there anyone on HHO who disagrees with foxhunting?) That is a clearly stated opinion on your part in other words a "Loaded Question". A more reasonable method (and fair to forum members) would be to put together a poll and perhaps more equitably ask "what do you think about foxhunting? By using the loaded question as you did in this instance you deliberatly or otherwise started a flame war scenario. I will reiterate this is the Horse and Hound Forum not Bambi Vegans United. Respect for other forum members comes within the remit of the nature of the forum. There are extremists who believe that people should not ride horses and that all animals shoulh be released from human captivity - interesting as these arguments are H&H is perhaps not the most suitable forum for this. You MAY believe that illegal hunting goes on and you by the way are entitled to your opinion However to persuede others there needs to be proof or at least reasoned argument Not just a belief that the world is in fact flat...

Please dont be offended...it simply all boils down to logic at the end of the day....
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I apologise - I am sure the answers on this thread would have been very different if I had named it 'What do you think of fox hunting'.
 
Moomin1 said:
Yet you are not logical at all. Your logic is that anyone who comes onto H&H must be a hunt supporter rather than a 'vegan bambi loving anti hunting extremist'. ?
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No I am reasonably sure that H&H gets all types of nutcases tbh, but for those here who have a genuine interest in what the forum is about and the interests it extols then it IS logical to presume that the former should be more intetested in what I referred to as "Bambi Vegan" related interests on the Bambi Vegan United Forum next door...

Personally I like this Forum to remain as Horse & Hound but hey do feel free to start a poll to see if we should change to something more modern and pc..
 
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Fiagai said:
...So if this is true then humans should be controlled by "Mother Nature"...odd the other 7 Billion humans and I obviously live on another planet somewhere else .
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Oh I believe she will get around to us at some point....

Seriously though, 7 billion on a planet that most scientists believe can only sustain 1-2 billion in the long-term. Currently food production is being propped up by the use of chemicals and intensive farming methods, giving us a false sense of security (in richer countries). But with soil fertility declining due to all the mineral leaching and deforestation .....I believe its only a matter of time before there is a pretty big natural readjustment of the human population.

If we don't clean up our collective act I'm sure that pretty soon the foxes will be the least of our worries....

Sorry bit of a tangent there but 'the 7 billion' issue is a subject I get quite passionate about...as you were! :)
 
Fiagai said:
Why? What do you think you would lose? Is somehow being open minded not acceptable anymore?
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Blimey that's a bit hypocritical!!! But if it makes you feel better I am sure that if I posted a different thread under that name then you would get very different answers - surely? - Err.....Or maybe not?! Try it and see!!
 
Fiagai said:
No I am reasonably sure that H&H gets all types of nutcases tbh, but for those here who have a genuine interest in what the forum is about and the interests it extols then it IS logical to presume that the former should be more intetested in what I referred to as "Bambi Vegan" related interests on the Bambi Vegan United Forum next door...

Personally I like this Forum to remain as Horse & Hound but hey do feel free to start a poll to see if we should change to something more modern and pc..
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Bordering on offensive there. So anyone who disagrees with your views is a nutcase?!!
 
Moomin1 said:
....But if it makes you feel better I am sure that if I posted a different thread under that name then you would get very different answers - surely? - Err.....Or maybe not?! Try it and see!!
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Dear Moonin please try and think back to the way in which you posed your initial question...I do hope that you can understand this simple point at least...

Moomin1 said:
Bordering on offensive there. So anyone who disagrees with your views is a nutcase?!!
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No just one! Do feel free of course to take the relevant post out of context :rolleyes:
 
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newbie_nix said:
Oh I believe she will get around to us at some point....

Seriously though, 7 billion on a planet that most scientists believe can only sustain 1-2 billion in the long-term. Currently food production is being propped up by the use of chemicals and intensive farming methods, giving us a false sense of security (in richer countries). But with soil fertility declining due to all the mineral leaching and deforestation .....I believe its only a matter of time before there is a pretty big natural readjustment of the human population.

If we don't clean up our collective act I'm sure that pretty soon the foxes will be the least of our worries....

Sorry bit of a tangent there but 'the 7 billion' issue is a subject I get quite passionate about...as you were! :)
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Thanks newbie_nix - Something I feel quite strongly about too. Sometimes I think - whats the point ;)
 
ShrikeThelwell said:
Although everyone is entitled to their own opinion I do find you very rude.

Wind your neck in and accept that not everyone who joins this site has the same opinions as you.
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Thankyou ShrikeThelwell,

Insinuating someone has a mental illness because they do not agree with certain people's opinions is highly out of order and quite honestly disgusting. I hope the person who commented is ashamed of themselves.
 
ShrikeThelwell said:
Although everyone is entitled to their own opinion I do find you very rude.
Wind your neck in ..
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ShrikeThelwell said:
Must be a lot of nutters on here then
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Well before you deleted THIS little piece of nastiness and the latest contribution above then I would put it like follows - Pot - Kettle - Black

ShrikeThelwell said:
Wind your neck in and accept that not everyone who joins this site has the same opinions as you.
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By the way ShT what you suggest is the exact opposite of what has actually been stated - do go back and try to understand what has been said, - please :rolleyes:
 
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