pi@@ed off about ebay & their promise to refund every b@tch out

I find it odd that someone would get a saddlers report and then write such a brief description, not even mentioning saddlers report for their item. I have written longer descriptions for £5 items!

Basically OP this is a ridiculous situation, I think that you polished the saddle up before it went to the saddler (hence report) and sent it on hoping that would be fine but buyer has checked more carefully and is totally legit in wanting to return saddle as a not described and you to send postage back. I think you could actually argue that was normal wear and tear on a black saddle but that would be ebay's call and you don't seem to have said anything to them- likely just going to give it a spit and a polish and send it off again.
 
bakewell said:
Oh I dunno.... fraudulently listing items, asking people to pay for it in advance of you possibly receiving it back, in a different condition. I mean really I could go on but you're quite adept at digging the hole without any input.
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It does seem odd you would relist it the day after you've come on here to complain that the buyer deliberately damaged the saddle without seeing the damage in person first.
 
I bought a saddle from ebay that the seller described as excellent condition, when it arrived it was scuffed and had a hole in the leather and had paint on it.I took photos as soon as I unwrapped it and sent them to ebay with a screen shot of the seller stating it was excellent condition with no damage. Ebay sided with the seller and I didn't get a refund, I lost out financially and am stuck with a worthless saddle. Ebay don't always side with the buyer.
 
OP if you plan to relist it then I would include more pictures or you risk the chances of the same thing happening again. Your OH has multiple feedbacks for not being clear on item condition and you really cant afford to get similar comments on your ebay profile or people will start avoiding your listings. Good luck with the resale.
 
I have read all 19 pages, and am quite honestly flabbergasted by the OPs actions and tone.

I recently sold my pram on ebay and posted up to the limit of photos allowed to ensure all wear and tear was shown (and so I had proof item was as described), the pram have a price tag of £150 so why the hell would you not post up to the limit of photos for a saddle that has recently been valued at £600?!

Something to me does not sit right with this whole story.
 
ester said:
Basically OP this is a ridiculous situation, I think that you polished the saddle up before it went to the saddler (hence report) and sent it on hoping that would be fine but buyer has checked more carefully and is totally legit in wanting to return saddle as a not described and you to send postage back. I think you could actually argue that was normal wear and tear on a black saddle but that would be ebay's call and you don't seem to have said anything to them- likely just going to give it a spit and a polish and send it off again.
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This.
Totally agree not as described, you should be relisting this saddle with a lot more photo's, an awful lot of feedback on your account saying items not as described (even positive feedback)
 
WelshD said:
OP if you plan to relist it then I would include more pictures or you risk the chances of the same thing happening again. Your OH has multiple feedbacks for not being clear on item condition and you really cant afford to get similar comments on your ebay profile or people will start avoiding your listings. Good luck with the resale.
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The feedback I can see shows 100% positive? Or am I looking in the wrong place?
 
ester said:
original listing, http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Albion-SL...D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557
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The second picture in both the the listings, to me, looks like the discolouration was already there on the seat to the back of the saddle (top left of the picture has that gold tinge to it), the first pic then looks like it has been cleaned/waxed/polished to try and hide this. I can`t see how it`s a scam, if the serial numbers match, then it`s the same saddle ... and there is nothing that could cause that level of discolouration in 24 hrs. So I think the buyer is in the right here.

I also don`t understand why it has been listed, twice, when you don`t have it back in your care yet? (one live listing with offers on it, one ended listing)


And just to top it off you then admit to spend how much on a saddle!!! when your house is derelict and you don`t have a bath etc? !!! ... this thread, and OP, have completely baffled me? !!
 
GG2B said:
The OP has been using both her and her husband's ebay account.

Current listing - http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/151410876113?ssPageName=STRK:MEBOFFX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1432.l2649
Original listing - http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Albion-SL...2047675.l2557&clk_rvr_id=697218859062&afsrc=1

I believe it's the husband's account that has a lot of not as described feedback.
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Ok, am I getting the wrong end of the stick - but is this the OH's ebay account..selling this saddle?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Black-Tho...?_trksid=p2047675.c100012.m1985&_trkparms=aid
 
I think I'm in the twilight zone!!!

Funnily enough, the listing is still on ebay... Despite op saying she was going to take the listing down over an hr ago.
 
GG2B said:
Yup appears to be!
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Right. That seller appears to have this comment made on 15th of this month about an item - Item damaged with torn edge . Described as good condition :) bit disappointed
15 Sep, 2014.

I can only imagine that is a separate item to the saddle we are on about. How odd that OP appears to have sold two items not as described this month.
 
that was a child seat toy or similar ;) - but yes we now know they are experienced ebayers, they know how it works, they probably tried to pull a fast one.

DCJace that is my view on the condition of the saddle when sold, there is only one listing as the 'sold' one is the person who is now sending it back.
 
ester said:
DCJace that is my view on the condition of the saddle when sold.
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Yes, I'm in complete agreement with you. I only quoted your original post as it had the link in to the pictures on ebay ... :)

I find this whole thread mind boggling ... especially the part about the house :(
 
Right...just caught up with this!

OP - why did you relist the item before you had received it back, using the old photos when it was most likely the saddle would be reurned in the state photographed by the original buyer? (or possible you wouldn't even receive your saddle back if they were pulling a scam?)
 
So, by OPs own admission she is seriously overstretched financially & lives in a derelict house. That's not a good situation to be in even before you bring a baby into the scene. Despite this OP states in post 31 that her HORSES & DOGS (plural) are all insured and has been spending £700 on a saddle. Her posts have been very aggressive in tone.
OP - you have far more serious issues going on in your life than this ebay transaction. Take a step back & look at the wider issues and get help soon.
 
I don't see any 'disgusting brown stuff' in the buyer's pic, just normal fading and a few scuffs that could have happened in transit.

What is this whole thread for? Emotional advertising?
 
ester said:
that was a child seat toy or similar ;) - but yes we now know they are experienced ebayers, they know how it works, they probably tried to pull a fast one.

DCJace that is my view on the condition of the saddle when sold, there is only one listing as the 'sold' one is the person who is now sending it back.
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My point was that they already have another sale this month which they have sold not as described. Two in one month..
 
I am selling my dressage saddle to pay oh back for this saddle & haven't removed it yet as out having a rare hack as oh is off of work. Difficult riding & typing!
 
coralwings20 said:
I am selling my dressage saddle to pay oh back for this saddle & haven't removed it yet as out having a rare hack as oh is off of work. Difficult riding & typing!
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I am still stumped as to why anyone would relist a saddle which they don't actually have in their possession still, nevermind one which they hadn't at that point seen what 'damage' had been done.
 
Moomin1 said:
I am still stumped as to why anyone would relist a saddle which they don't actually have in their possession still, nevermind one which they hadn't at that point seen what 'damage' had been done.
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coralwings20 said:
innocent & honest sellers like me

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Whilst this is such low hanging fruit and I should be working.... a very flexible and wide-ranging interpretation of the meaning of these words perhaps?
 
Jeez - my financial situation is no one's business but mine - I was just saying I couldn't afford to refund her as bought a dressage saddle which is now listed on ebay to gather funds to pay her back.

The saddler report was brief as she only came to check the air in it & told me he preferred the high withered thorowgood saddles hence buying a dressage one as that's what I mainly do :-) I can assure you that that discolouration wasn't there when sent or why would I have paid £700 for it & have it valued at £600?

I have had two offers on the saddle which I have ignored until I get the saddle back which was supposed to be today!

Back from my lovely hack and will log into ebay once my baby is in bed as she liked to help when I'm computing lol.
 
OP - I have come to the conclusion that you are an attention seeking little madam. I bet nothing you have told us about your situation is true. I bet the buyer has been nothing but polite & you are just throwing a strop because you have to refund her.
 
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