The Egypt Horse Project ?

[shadeofshyness]

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/201058513725

This is their latest fundraiser, here is a photo of an old horse who they took in and the admin said it had been well looked after by its owner, judge for yourself if you think thats true, this horse died a while ago so why are they using its photo to generate donations for food. Its almost a sick joke because this horse never had any judging by its skeletal condition.

Shocking that they're still using her for marketing purposes now that she's finally at peace. Poor thing should have been PTS - or better still, given a chance to put weight on with specialised OAP sloppy food first. But of course you can't get ANY feed in Egypt according to them... completely ignoring the knowledge of locals with old healthy horses...!

 

[Spring Feather]

Well to give her her due, using eBay to try to generate funds is proactive. She does still have horses to feed at the moment and if she can get money to do that, when it sounds like almost all private donations have run dry, then it is admirable that she's doing whatever she can to find money to feed them.

Ash is little more than a kid at the end of the day. She doesn't have the years of experience many of us have so I think we do need to have a little more tolerance. However I do feel that she has been her own worst enemy and has burned so many bridges in Egypt; and her older admins elsewhere in the world, who should know better, have been highly unprofessional publicly and no doubt have scared off many potential new donators to the cause.

It's a thin line between making the general public aware of what goes on in establishments like this, and persecuting people. I have not and never would donate to TEHP so what happens to funds is not of particular interest to me; my issues with the project have been concerns for some of the animals in their care.

 

[Lady La La]

and her older admins elsewhere in the world, who should know better, have been highly unprofessional publicly and no doubt have scared off many potential new donators to the cause.

Having followed the page recently, I'd have to agree with this statement. The problem I think, is that Ash wont come out of hiding to answer the individual posts, or to respond to some of the queries raised, she just makes the odd official statement... so the other admin are doing it for her, and making a very poor job of it by all accounts.

I haven't donated either, and like you I never would... but a large number of people have, and I can understand completely why they are now wanting to know exactly where their money has gone, or where it will be going.
It seems no accounts have been publicised since last year, is that true? Perhaps if they do become registered, this will have to change. I think that would certainly be a positive step.

 

[Lady Luna]

Have they no shame?
To use a horse long dead to guilt trip people into buying hay is despicable in the extreme

 

[Spring Feather]

It seems no accounts have been publicised since last year, is that true? Perhaps if they do become registered, this will have to change. I think that would certainly be a positive step.

In my mind it's highly doubtful they will ever become a registered charity. D'you know how long this malarky has been going on to become registered? They had fund raising for this very reason and they made enough to pay to go through the motions of becoming a registered charity. It never happened. They do still tell their fans that the charitable status should be through this month (March) but I'll believe that when I see it.

 

[Lady Luna]

I believe to apply as a registered charity they need to show accounts for the previous year.....not much chance of that. Wonder where the £5000 donated to register went???

 

[Dobiegirl]

Well to give her her due, using eBay to try to generate funds is proactive. She does still have horses to feed at the moment and if she can get money to do that, when it sounds like almost all private donations have run dry, then it is admirable that she's doing whatever she can to find money to feed them.

Ash is little more than a kid at the end of the day. She doesn't have the years of experience many of us have so I think we do need to have a little more tolerance. However I do feel that she has been her own worst enemy and has burned so many bridges in Egypt; and her older admins elsewhere in the world, who should know better, have been highly unprofessional publicly and no doubt have scared off many potential new donators to the cause.

It's a thin line between making the general public aware of what goes on in establishments like this, and persecuting people. I have not and never would donate to TEHP so what happens to funds is not of particular interest to me; my issues with the project have been concerns for some of the animals in their care.

Ash is 23 years old hardly a kid, she has had lots of help and advice but she just ignores it, now if that was just her fine but she is responsible for animals. In the beginning they were starting to pick up in condition, horses and donkeys are now being taken in that should be pts, poor Morsey I didnt sleep properly for nights after he was taken in and his hooves trimmed by Ashs husband so adding to his suffering and misery. There is talk of a donkey who had a leg amputated and a metal one was going to be fitted. Its just one long catalogue of disaster with the horses and donkeys paying the price for someones ego.

Im not overly bothered in the fact that daft people are still donating but those donations might have gone to one of the charities working in Egypt who really make a difference.

 

[Lochinvar]

Hello ladies,

I have just been sent a screen shot showing a few comments on here. Just so you know I left TEHP as my father is seriously ill, I am now his main carer. I was helping a small group of people who were keen to get TEHP animals to a sanctuary that has been kindly offered in Cairo, however at the moment I no longer know how this in progressing.

I am sure you will all hurl a load of abuse and bricks at me now and demand answers and explanations however I am not ignoring you, I just really need to spend this time with my Dad right now.

Thank you
Wendy

 

[Dobiegirl]

Hi Wendy

I do think you have got your priorities right by looking after your father who Im sure is glad of your care and support and I hope he is as comfortable as possible.

Perhaps one of your fellow admin can come on and answer some of the questions raised here which are deleted as soon as raised on TEHP page.

 

[Dizzy Diva]

Wendy I hope your dad is o.k as you say you must put your energy into caring for him . Nobody is going to abuse or bully you I believe that what you did for TEHP was out of the goodness of your heart and I also think you got conned like a lot of others .

 

[Lady La La]

Wendy I hope your dad is o.k as you say you must put your energy into caring for him . Nobody is going to abuse or bully you I believe that what you did for TEHP was out of the goodness of your heart and I also think you got conned like a lot of others .

Agreed.

 

[CAYLA]

Wow, long and interesting read on the old night shift, I would surmise this charity/rescue is no longer receiving funds then !

 

[Spring Feather]

Wendy, very best wishes to your father.

 

[Lady Luna]

It most certainly is still receiving funds. Currently on eBay people can buy a bale of hay for the horses at TEHP. The thing which leaves a very bad taste in the mouth is the 'starving' horse pictured on eBay died months ago, their page now states that the horses currently there are in reasonable condition and they post pictures to prove it. Once a scammer always a scammer I suppose

 

[Vizslak]

Nobody knows what's going on exactly, isn't that more to the point?! Another bunch of charlatans masquerading under the guise of 'charity', all too common nowadays. Feel sorry for folk that have donated and been fooled, very little seems to actually help any of the poor animals they are donating for.

 

[Dobiegirl]

Nobody knows what's going on exactly, isn't that more to the point?! Another bunch of charlatans masquerading under the guise of 'charity', all too common nowadays. Feel sorry for folk that have donated and been fooled, very little seems to actually help any of the poor animals they are donating for.

I think the only one who knows what is going on is Ash and as she is now in Australia taking a family holiday its anyones guess They have issued so many statements some contradicting previous ones its hard to make head nor tail of it all, anyone asking questions trying to make sense of it is either insulted,accused of being a troll or are deleted. They currently have the begging bowl out asking for more donations and saying their donations are at all time low because of the haters, well their donations could be at an all time low but as they havnt issued any bank statements to prove this how do you know.

The only positive thing I can see in this is the presence Of ESAF who are going in and keeping an eye on them so if anyone wants to ensure these horses needs are met donate to ESAF.

 

[Spring Feather]

I think the only one who knows what is going on is Ash and as she is now in Australia taking a family holiday

Tbh if she had any sense, she'd remain in Australia and hopefully her reputation wouldn't follow her.

 

[Lochinvar]

Ladies,

I am asking for my message on here to be removed, not because I am hiding from you but because a Jenny Fat-so posted about my message to you all on FB (not maliciously; only in asking whether admin on a page had seen my comment here) and I am now receiving pretty vile (troll) messages about my Dad.

I feel sorry for these people that this is what their daily life consists of, however, I am also absolutely exhausted and could really do without the extra stress.

Kind regards,

Wendy

 

[Spring Feather]

Ladies,

I am asking for my message on here to be removed, not because I am hiding from you but because a Jenny Fat-so posted about my message to you all on FB (not maliciously; only in asking whether admin on a page had seen my comment here) and I am now receiving pretty vile (troll) messages about my Dad.

I feel sorry for these people that this is what their daily life consists of, however, I am also absolutely exhausted and could really do without the extra stress.

Kind regards,

Wendy

Well firstly; you've asked for your posts to be deleted before and admin never does it. Secondly, "we all" as you put it, are not all on the FB page, but anyone reading this thread on H&H will obviously see your comments. Thirdly, if you are receiving nasty messages on FB then it is FB you need to complain to. Nasty messages are definitely not on and yes absolutely complain or block these people, but FB is not H&H; they're two entirely different entities.

 

[Lochinvar]

I haven't mentioned my Dad on Fb and FB will not delete anything anyway, I know that from all the Crush pics I report....

If H&H will not delete is it possible to delete messages yourself? as in I delete my own messages?

 

[Dobiegirl]

Wendy please post these messages if they exist, forgive my scepticism but you have pulled this stunt before, as I said before I hope your father is comfortable and you are spending quality time together, my best wishes to you both.

 

[Spring Feather]

I haven't mentioned my Dad on Fb and FB will not delete anything anyway, I know that from all the Crush pics I report....

If H&H will not delete is it possible to delete messages yourself? as in I delete my own messages?

No we aren't able to delete our posts on here any more. You have about a minute to edit or delete nowadays and then after that your comments remain forever more. You can message Admin but they don't normally delete posts unless there are defamatory comments or profanity. If you are getting the messages through FB then again I say to you it is FB you need to speak to, or change your settings so these people cannot message you.

 

[Lochinvar]

I have pulled this stunt.... seriously, you are questioning my Dad being unwell?

Enjoy your lives ladies, have requested all my posts to be pulled from H&H - your scepticism is beyond insulting and truly, I hope you never find yourself in a similar situation.

Goodbye ladies, have a wonderful evening on here with each other. If any you hold any sway with H&H forum admin perhaps you could also ask them to remove me completely from on here.

Dobiegirl (I have no idea of your real name sorry so can only call you that) I came here to say I was not hiding from you all and instead get accused of lying by you. If I posted the messages what would you get from them.... at a loss as to why you want to read them really

 

[Lady Luna]

Proof maybe?

 

[Spring Feather]

I have pulled this stunt.... seriously, you are questioning my Dad being unwell?

Enjoy your lives ladies, have requested all my posts to be pulled from H&H - your scepticism is beyond insulting and truly, I hope you never find yourself in a similar situation.

Goodbye ladies, have a wonderful evening on here with each other. If any you hold any sway with H&H forum admin perhaps you could also ask them to remove me completely from on here.

Dobiegirl (I have no idea of your real name sorry so can only call you that) I came here to say I was not hiding from you all and instead get accused of lying by you. If I posted the messages what would you get from them.... at a loss as to why you want to read them really

Eh? Where on earth did Dobiegirl say she didn't believe your father was unwell? :confused3:

It's really quite easy to no longer come on here. You just press the red box in the upper right corner of your screen. Works a treat for me any time I'm fed up with this place :smile3:

 

[Lady Luna]

And you know all about deleting people don't you Lochinvar????

 

[Dobiegirl]

Yes thankfully Lady Luna H&H dont have a delete button unlike TEHP who run rampant with it when people rightly ask questions.

 

[Dobiegirl]

I haven't mentioned my Dad on Fb and FB will not delete anything anyway, I know that from all the Crush pics I report....


Wendy you might not have mentioned this on fb but one of your admins did(M), she posted in TEHP and said your father was ill and more but I will not go into that on here, it was not anyone on the groups or H&H but your own admin.

 

[Lady La La]

Why on earth would your (rather innocent) posts on here need to be removed just because people have been alerted to this thread? Admin on that fb page posted links to this thread days ago...

 

[Dobiegirl]

Why on earth would your (rather innocent) posts on here need to be removed just because people have been alerted to this thread? Admin on that fb page posted links to this thread days ago...

Its bizarre to say the least and it typical diversion tactics to go on the attack like this, at least we haven't been called trolls yet.