COldNag
Wasting my time successfully....
I would expect YO in that situation to make sure the shoe is removed - by farrier if not happy to do themselves - but definitely to ensure it was done ASAP.
Red my farrier was definitely not having me on.
He's a fantastic guy and really passionate about educating owners. Always has trainees etc. He was so disappointed in not being able to run a course for owners in removing shoes that he thought of running one using dead legs but as removing a shoe off a leg is a totally different skill there wasnt really any point.
So either he came across a jobsworth or the rules have changed since you did it (as they seem to have in so many ways making people ludicrously risk averse) or he framed his request wrong so his plan was misunderstood or it was an insurance problem. I dont know. Was your course insured/signed off on? Who by?? I'd be very grateful if you could post or PM details and I'll let him know.
We're more than 40 mins from the practice, not on the edge of their covered area and would definitely be more than 40 minutes away if the emergency vet was on the other side of the area. I don't think there is any such maximum.You can’t get a farrier in half an hour unless you are very lucky you can however get a vet within I think forty minutes is the maximum ,practices are supposed to be able an emergency within that time .
RCVS guidelines for attending an emergency
Have you seen the hash job some people (vets included!) make at removing shoes?! I wouldn’t want anyone from the yard touching mines feet. If it’s so loose it’s moving then get someone to it or remove the nails that are out and boot/bandage it until it’s safe. And I say that as someone who has been examined on removing shoes! If something’s in the sole leave that for the vets to remove.
This, though I'd be a bit peeved that the YO hadn't done this if I was on holiday and the horse was on full livery. I wouldn't expect the YO to do it, though I did have help removing a loose and badly twisted shoe from my mare years ago. Can't remember if it was a fellow livery or the YO, but we did get the shoe off as the farrier couldn't come up straight away.Tbh I'd have just rung my farrier (not waited for a text reply), and if I hadn't got him I'd have rung around some others that also attend the yard and found someone. I've done that before and had no issue, and have always paid appropriately (e.g double what I'd pay my normal farrier).
Arguably YO should have done the ringing around but it would have been easy enough to do from wherever you were I'd have thought.
that's a great idea for anyone unsure or lacking confidence.Nailing a shoe to a piece of wood is an easy way to practice.
i did not have the right tools, i had no training, but i managed to remove the shoe cleanly. It is honestly not that hard.
The yard owner.genuine question that I don't know the answer to, but if providing full livery for an owner who is away, where does duty of care start and finish?