dorsetladette
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The help line is 24/7 according to the website - never used it to be honest.
WWYD -Livery Issues
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The help line is 24/7 according to the website - never used it to be honest.
Tiddlypom
Carries on creakily
I doubt that the BHS will give advice re a situation which has been developing while you were not a member.
dorsetladette
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doodle
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Send owner a text saying abandonment order is up. Horse is now yours and you will sell her immediately. Then get adverts written up as suggested. She is calling your bluff and you are letting her.
sport horse
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Ring a dealer and get her into their yard - sale money is theirs apaprt from the money you need to cover hay. Horse market is still good so a dealer should be interested.
The Xmas Furry
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The offices (and those wfh) finish at 5. The overnight line is for urgent welfare calls only, which isn't your situation OP.
emilylou
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Where are you based? Surely there is a good dealer in your area who you could call, explain the situation and have him take her off your hands.
dorsetladette
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Good Shout! Will look into local dealers this evening
Polos Mum
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Sorry to be right in this situation. These people are all the same.
The horse is yours now - you have followed the right process - a bit of spray on the thrush would be worth it. If there is a local dealer in your area I would give them a call now and get the mare collected in the next couple of hours. I don't think the previous owner ever wanted her back in reality - which is maybe why the abandonment notice didn't get her to take any action.
dorsetladette
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I'll ring when I finish in the office - i can get away with HHO but a phone call would push my luck
The Xmas Furry
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Download all your communications with the livery that appertains to her getting notice, print out a couple of copies, add copies of the dated abandonment notice too.
You keep a copy.
Purchaser can have a copy (but redact all contact numbers and names on this copy, dont change any wording).
Post a copy to the ex livery.
Sorted
Tiddlypom
Carries on creakily
BHS Members Legal Helpline is available 24/7, but understandably to current members only.
https://www.bhs.org.uk/legal-helpline
This free service is available to all BHS Friends, Gold (Adult, Junior, Student, Family), Life and Founder members for all your legal queries and is available by phone or email.
You will find the telephone number on the back of your membership card. Please be ready with your membership number before you utilise the service.
https://www.bhs.org.uk/legal-helpline
This free service is available to all BHS Friends, Gold (Adult, Junior, Student, Family), Life and Founder members for all your legal queries and is available by phone or email.
You will find the telephone number on the back of your membership card. Please be ready with your membership number before you utilise the service.
emilylou
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Download all your communications with the livery that appertains to her getting notice, print out a couple of copies, add copies of the dated abandonment notice too.
You keep a copy.
Purchaser can have a copy (but redact all contact numbers and names on this copy, dont change any wording).
Post a copy to the ex livery.
Sorted
Yes, perfect. But only once livery is off your property. I think a dealer is your best option now. For all you know this field she is referring to may not even exist. I would stop communicating with her, have the pony removed into more responsible hands, do the above and move forwards.
chaps89
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You may also have a legal advice helpline with your home insurance OP if BHS is a no go.
Pedantic
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Absolutely detest these types of people, they go through life, with all the rest of us compensating for them in every aspect of society, if they do get brought to account, they always seem to play the victim card, total oxygen stealing scumbags.
dorsetladette
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Oh yeah can see I'll be the bad guy just wait and see. Thats why I want to make sure I have everything correct before my name is dragged through the dirt.
GreyMane
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Hate to say it, but ordinary house insurance freebie/add on legal "cover" is about as much use as tissue paper wellies - especially if you had a vexatious claim against you. Insurance companies won't help in a legal case unless they think they can recoup cash from someone, so you have to be the one making a claim or (if defending) a counter claim that has a good chance of winning. Often they will only assist claimants not defendants for this reason.
You'd be better off with the BHS line, at least they'd know the procedures on abandonment.
Good luck OP.
ForeverBroke_
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I agree with previous posters. I would text the owner and say the abandonment notice expired 07/10/20 and therefore the pony is legally yours. I (maybe being soft) would then say 'The pony can be bought for (insert figure to cover hay and damages etc) and that should she want to purchase the pony she should contact you in the first instance, but that a new home is being sought immediately.'
little_critter
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I don't know if I'd want to sell the pony back to the previous owner. What if she pays the hay bill but still doesn't pick up the pesky pony? You are back to square 1.
Fransurrey
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Similar to this. Message her and tell her the mare is now sold and will be collected by new owner on *insert day of choice this week*. If that doesn't make her move, nothing will.
Polos Mum
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I think you might have to accept that she doesn't want the pony. Anyone who even remotely wanted it would have sorted something when the abandonment notice went up.
Your local dealer is your best bet, save you the hassle of all and sundry coming around for a nosy! They won't be put off by lack of passport either and will understand the abandonment notice process probably more than Joe Public
Your local dealer is your best bet, save you the hassle of all and sundry coming around for a nosy! They won't be put off by lack of passport either and will understand the abandonment notice process probably more than Joe Public
Steerpike
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I would get in touch with a local dealer and give the horse to them cut your losses, don't contact the said livery as you've gone past the date of the abandonment notice, you have all the written evidence that you did everything the correct way but I doubt you will hear from her again.
canteron
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this - you have to live with your actions and in years to come the money isn’t what will stick in your mind. I think if you find it a home where it thrives it will turn it into a happy story!
dorsetladette
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Renewed BHS membership. Called legal line and gent I spoke to was happy what I have done is correct.
Put a vague post on Facebook offering 'A' cob mare in exchange for her hay bill being cleared.
Just received panicky messages that mare will be moved tomorrow. We will see.
I have spoken to a local (but not to local) dealer tonight who would take mare Thursday evening. (I can't do anything in office hours at the moment). So I'll keep that arrangement in place and see what she comes up with before hand.
Put a vague post on Facebook offering 'A' cob mare in exchange for her hay bill being cleared.
Just received panicky messages that mare will be moved tomorrow. We will see.
I have spoken to a local (but not to local) dealer tonight who would take mare Thursday evening. (I can't do anything in office hours at the moment). So I'll keep that arrangement in place and see what she comes up with before hand.
AmyMay
Situation normal
I hope you told her that’s her absolute last chance, and that legally the mare is now yours....
Fingers crossed for tomorrow ?
Fingers crossed for tomorrow ?
Dasher66
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It’s your horse now. If the previous owner wants to buy her she will have to pay at least the hay bill.
Cherryblossom
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Hopefully she’s now realised you’re not playing. I’ve just got rid of my livery. Took me threatening to bring her horses into the stable (so she’d have to actually see to them and feed them) to get two of them moved. Took me threatening to interrupt her having her old horse PTS in my field to get her to pay the money she owed. I hated the whole thing. Never again will I have a livery!
Sossigpoker
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For the sake of the pony i wouldn't allow the now previous owner to have her as she will only continue to neglect her.
Just tell her the pony is now legally yours and ban her from your property.
If you are in Dorset , Emily Chambers is a very good dealer and producer in Tewkesbury, Gloucestershire , she might be willing to take the pony off your hands and sort her out. It would be worth contacting her especially if you only want hay money.
That previous owner shouldn't have any animals to be honest and I hope you won't end up giving her back.
Can I also say bloody well done! It's clearly not been easy dealing with this and you've done a cracking job so far!!
Just tell her the pony is now legally yours and ban her from your property.
If you are in Dorset , Emily Chambers is a very good dealer and producer in Tewkesbury, Gloucestershire , she might be willing to take the pony off your hands and sort her out. It would be worth contacting her especially if you only want hay money.
That previous owner shouldn't have any animals to be honest and I hope you won't end up giving her back.
Can I also say bloody well done! It's clearly not been easy dealing with this and you've done a cracking job so far!!
dorsetladette
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Thank you. It doesn't feel like a good job to be honest. It feels like one massive mess. I only wanted a livery for a bit of company and someone to hack out with. I wish I'd never bothered
Trouper
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Goodness what a tale! Well done you for sticking with it and seeing it through. When all the dust is settled what will stick in your mind is what happened to the pony so I think you will feel more peace of mind if she is disposed of in the best possible way with the chance of a better home in the future. I am sure you will do this as your posts clearly show your concern for the pony and I hope all of you come out of this in a happier place.