Another fatal dog attack

[Titchy Pony]

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I quite often get asked if my lurcher is a rescue, people seem disappointed when I say no, I bought him as an 8 week pup from OH’s cousin.

I get the opposite when people (men!) find out that my monster was originally a rescue (as in from a shelter - I got him as a private rehome), but that's mainly because it means he's castrated. I think it takes away some of his "bad boy" appeal or something... I couldn't care less.

 

[TheresaW]

2 of ours are from a rescue. Bo came via Clodagh on here. I do believe she did rescue him.

 

[CorvusCorax]

I quite often get asked if my lurcher is a rescue, people seem disappointed when I say no, I bought him as an 8 week pup from OH’s cousin.

Yes, people used to ask all the time if my older male was a rescue, nope, just a knob

 

[bonny]

I don’t see the relevance of whether or not anyone else’s dog is a rescue, the point with the recent XL bully attack is that he had come up from England to escape the laws there and had been rehoused by a well meaning Scot. Its ended terribly for the new owner as well as the bystander but I don’t doubt he thought he was doing a good thing at the time.
I doubt very much there won’t be more similar stories coming out shortly.

 

[TheresaW]

I don’t see the relevance of whether or not anyone else’s dog is a rescue, the point with the recent XL bully attack is that he had come up from England to escape the laws there and had been rehoused by a well meaning Scot. Its ended terribly for the new owner as well as the bystander but I don’t doubt he thought he was doing a good thing at the time.
I doubt very much there won’t be more similar stories coming out shortly.

The thing is, he didn’t need rescuing/rehoming. Just an owner prepared to do what was necessary to keep him, which really isn’t that much in the grand scheme of things.

 

[skinnydipper]

I don’t see the relevance of whether or not anyone else’s dog is a rescue, the point with the recent XL bully attack is that he had come up from England to escape the laws there and had been rehoused by a well meaning Scot. Its ended terribly for the new owner as well as the bystander but I don’t doubt he thought he was doing a good thing at the time.
I doubt very much there won’t be more similar stories coming out shortly.

Yeah, it was more that he had scarring and somebody was making up a back story for him when really they didn't know what his previous life had been like.

 

[ester]

I’m just aghast that anyone takes a dog into a shop that small/tight unless it’s carryable let alone an XL they’ve had 2 weeks

 

[CorvusCorax]

I’m just aghast that anyone takes a dog into a shop that small/tight unless it’s carryable let alone an XL they’ve had 2 weeks

And what, a counterweight of about 2-3kg in the other hand?

 

[ester]

With the lead just looped round your wrist while you pay…

 

[CorvusCorax]

I don’t see the relevance of whether or not anyone else’s dog is a rescue, the point with the recent XL bully attack is that he had come up from England to escape the laws there and had been rehoused by a well meaning Scot. Its ended terribly for the new owner as well as the bystander but I don’t doubt he thought he was doing a good thing at the time.
I doubt very much there won’t be more similar stories coming out shortly.

Rescue dogs/any dog that has gone through upheaval, generally need weeks to decompress and settle into a new home, not being trailed around the shops being put in situations they don't need to be in. Well meaning is just that, doesn't mean a person has any sense. 'Doing a good thing' doesn't actually always help dogs. Certainly didn't help himself or the innocent bystander. And yes, I blame whoever moved him on, as well.

ETA/TL;DR: the "good intentions" of a rescuer do not trump the mental stability of the rescuee

 

[Cortez]

Wasn't there someone on here saying that there had been no attacks in Scotland since XL's had been sent up there, thus 'proving' that there was nothing to worry about, all hype, etc.......

 

[Errin Paddywack]

"An XL Bully dog was shot dead by police after it attacked two men just moments after appearing "happy and begging for treats" in a shop.

Hunter, thought to be in his late 40s, had rescued Zeus from England only two weeks prior,"

XL Bully with 'innocent face' begs for treats moments before he's shot dead

WARNING, GRAPHIC CONTENT: An XL Bully dog named Zeus was shot dead by police after it attacked two men in a shop, with the dangerous breed set to be outlawed by February 1

www.dailystar.co.uk

Anyone read the comments under the article? Someone said "There was absolutely NO need to kill this poor dog. Disgusting!" What planet do they live on I wonder.

 

[oldandgold]

Anyone read the comments under the article? Someone said "There was absolutely NO need to kill this poor dog. Disgusting!" What planet do they live on I wonder.

And sadly that sums up the attitude of many xl bully owners/fans and why the banning of them has been bought about.

 

[skinnydipper]

Anyone remember Louie Turnbull and Marshall & Millions?

I was wondering what the outcome was, I had missed this - 'The 47-year-old pleaded guilty to owning two dangerously out of control dogs at Snaresbrook crown court on Friday.'

Owner of two dogs shot dead by police given suspended sentence

Louie Turnbull pleads guilty to owning dangerously out of control animals after they attacked woman’s dog by east London canal

www.theguardian.com

 

[Pippity]

Anyone read the comments under the article? Someone said "There was absolutely NO need to kill this poor dog. Disgusting!" What planet do they live on I wonder.

They're partly right. If it had been muzzled, there wouldn't have been a need to kill it - on this occasion. Of course, if it had attacked its owner in his own home, there wouldn't have been anybody TO kill it, and the owner would have been the dead one.

 

[Mrs. Jingle]

Anyone remember Louie Turnbull and Marshall & Millions?

I was wondering what the outcome was, I had missed this - 'The 47-year-old pleaded guilty to owning two dangerously out of control dogs at Snaresbrook crown court on Friday.'

Owner of two dogs shot dead by police given suspended sentence

Louie Turnbull pleads guilty to owning dangerously out of control animals after they attacked woman’s dog by east London canal

www.theguardian.com

I just love that the total knob head is claiming PTSD from seeing his dogs shot by the police...but he was already on a 20 year long ban from owning any dogs! So what sort of loving and caring owner was he to have already accumulated that length of ban?

 

[CorvusCorax]

I just love that the total knob head is claiming PTSD from seeing his dogs shot by the police...but he was already on a 20 year long ban from owning any dogs! So what sort of loving and caring owner was he to have already accumulated that length of ban?

I'm not negating anything that he may or may have not done by the defendant but I also found the footage very upsetting. I think with the rise in frequency of dog related incidents, ARUs/TSG need to be better trained in how to deal with these situations.

 

[Mrs. Jingle]

I'm not negating anything that he may or may have not done by the defendant but I also found the footage very upsetting.

I think all of us who saw the footage found it upsetting. Extremely upsetting. But I suspect it will be repeated a good few times in coming months.

 

[Archangel]

I know these dogs have attacked people but it’s so sad for the dogs , the bitch that is less than a year must have had a pretty rough life and a rough death as well. Poor girl . Just shows the type of uncaring owners who can’t even be bothered to PTS humanely

Agree. Poor dog.

 

[skinnydipper]

I think all of us who saw the footage found it upsetting. Extremely upsetting. But I suspect it will be repeated a good few times in coming months.

I agree, the footage was upsetting. At the end it may have been possible for the Police to have handled it differently but I also watched the longer video where the Police traipsed after him round the streets, trying to reason with him and asking to him hand the dogs over. He didn't. In my opinion he was to blame for the death of his dogs. They had already jumped off his barge and bitten someone and days before the incident involving Ms Shyti's dog they had been an involved in another incident.

It should never have happened, none of it. He was banned from keeping dogs, he shouldn't have had those dogs and knowing their history of aggression they should have been on a lead and under control.

Once again dogs suffered because of an irresponsible owner.

 

[Jenko109]

He took on two dogs who were a banned breed when he knew he was banned from keeping dogs.

Even if the Police had not shot them dogs on that day, those dogs were already dead from the minute he took them on.

 

[skinnydipper]

Frankly, I found the mass hysteria and vigils sickening. People need to get a grip.

 

[Goldenstar]

Frankly, I found the mass hysteria and vigils sickening. People need to get a grip.

Me too, they do .
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[Goldenstar]

Anyone read the comments under the article? Someone said "There was absolutely NO need to kill this poor dog. Disgusting!" What planet do they live on I wonder.

I really really don’t know what planet they are on .
The owner is lucky to be alive and if police had not get there quickly he probably would have been dead they tasered it but it did not let go.
Its extremely frightening .

 

[CorvusCorax]

Man reported to prosecutors over dog attack

Police shot the ‘dangerously out of control’ animal dead during the incident in Hamilton, South Lanarkshire, on Tuesday.

www.independent.co.uk

And here's where his good intentions have got him

 

[Smitty]

There never seems to be mass hysteria over the people who have died or been injured, or the numerous pets that have been killed by dogs of this breed. The people behind the propaganda must be totally unfeeling and on some sort of hidden agenda, probably money.

 

[Clodagh]

There never seems to be mass hysteria over the people who have died or been injured, or the numerous pets that have been killed by dogs of this breed. The people behind the propaganda must be totally unfeeling and on some sort of hidden agenda, probably money.

There’s none so blind as them that don’t want to see.

The people I know who are hysterical are either furbaby mummies… (hard to unfriend them, we are related ) or anti police generally.

 

[Smitty]

I think you have nailed it.

I think can't the police have any other choice in the heat of the moment. They are trying to save the public, or themselves, from needless injury. It's not as though every week they are shooting poodles, Cavs or whippets.

 

[CorvusCorax]

Hysteria works both ways. There must be opportunities to work with or train with what existing dog units there are, who are generally much more adept at dealing with such situations.

 

[Smitty]

But they are stretched as it is without taking time to learn how to best deal with a dog that is intent on doing serious damage to people. I hope they continue to despatch the out of control dangerous dogs. They shouldn't be living amongst us anyway.

I know people say they have been abused, badly treated etc, but in my opinion lurchers were the worst treated and abused dogs before bullies became so popular, and I cannot recall any lurchers killing a human.