Another fatal dog attack

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Not that I've had anything to do with them but from what I've seen they don't seem to give much away.

If anyone can clock it, these people will, but like I say, they are very experienced and accomplished people working with hundreds of dogs over several decades.
 

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I have been away with some friends in West Somerset. Loads and loads of Spaniels, small fluffy dogs, one old fashioned short stocky Staffy, JRs and terriers (including 2 lovely Irish), lovely GSP, dachschunds and Labs. Not an intimidating looking dog in 3 days. I think it is a very regional and social economic problem. Actually, the scariest were 2 farm collies who gave me hell when I walked past the farm drive and they were in the back of an open truck on guard duty.
 

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While I agree this is horrible , how did a dog of that size get to her face? The only dogs that ever get anywhere near my face are my own and that’s not often. no matter how cute a little dog looks everyone knows they can all bite.
Drink is a massive factor because people tend to get loud and they change and alot of dogs react to it, my Winnie a JRT doesn't like drunk people I can just see she changes and looks worried.

If we have people round and I know it may get rowdy I put both of my dogs in a different room.
 

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Drink is a massive factor because people tend to get loud and they change and alot of dogs react to it, my Winnie a JRT doesn't like drunk people I can just see she changes and looks worried.

If we have people round and I know it may get rowdy I put both of my dogs in a different room.
Definitely, it changes people's behaviour so much. My last dog couldn't stand being around people who'd had too much to drink; I didn't walk her past the village pub in the summer when people would stand drinking outside as she'd just get really anxious and want to get away from them.

Mind you, my parents had a shih zhu decades ago who would make every attempt to get at and lick the rims of the empty wine bottles that were waiting to go out with the rubbish- maybe they just don't like it when the shoe is on the other foot 🤣
 

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Definitely, it changes people's behaviour so much. My last dog couldn't stand being around people who'd had too much to drink; I didn't walk her past the village pub in the summer when people would stand drinking outside as she'd just get really anxious and want to get away from them.

Mind you, my parents had a shih zhu decades ago who would make every attempt to get at and lick the rims of the empty wine bottles that were waiting to go out with the rubbish- maybe they just don't like it when the shoe is on the other foot 🤣
Winnie hates alcohol she won't go near any but mavis will have a sniff and try and lick it😆
 

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Met 2 unpleasant small dunno what's yesterday, one belonged to a student from my school who obviously wanted to say hello (woods with Mitch) and another to a couple leaving the park (Goose). Both very small, both extremely unhappy to have mine walk past. How very dare they exist?! A black lab in the park in shadow, didn't see him til quite late but grabbed the trailing longline and took Goose away. I empathised with the owner, it reminded me of Zak. I think everyone goes to the woods now, nothing else in the park, it was brilliant, no xls!
 

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Not sure if this works but very sensible
That pretty much sums it up, and they are all things that anyone with a reasonable amount of common sense can see being an issue. Clearly an awful lot of people don't have common sense, and for some reason think they and their XLB will be the one exception to the rule :rolleyes:

We could probably do with a video like that being put out as a public information film, but I suppose you can't change stupid so the effect may be negligible.
 

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Not sure if this works but very sensible
He comes up on my Facebook reels every so often and I mostly agree with what he says. He was in the police force and I think still trains dogs for them . He uses electric collars but none of the dogs he trains look scared or cowering away from him so I’m a bit on the fence about his methods
 

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Not sure if this works but very sensible
It may be sensible advice but he shows videos of his young daughter 'working' his Cane corso in busy public places whilst the dog is wearing an electric and a prong collar.
He appears to have an enormous ego that means ita ok for him to do all the things he says others shouldn't...
 

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He comes up on my Facebook reels every so often and I mostly agree with what he says. He was in the police force and I think still trains dogs for them . He uses electric collars but none of the dogs he trains look scared or cowering away from him so I’m a bit on the fence about his methods
A dog in an electric collar shouldn't know that the correction comes from the handler so they won't fear him, to be fair he seems to use the collars well and not necessarily use the shock aspect (I have used then as well) you can use a vibrate function on most of them
 

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I have never heard of him and know nothing about his training methods. I posted the clip as the most concise reasoning I have yet seen on the negatives of getting an XL bully. I personally think these considerations should be applied to some of the large non banned breeds also before bringing one into a family.
 

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It may be sensible advice but he shows videos of his young daughter 'working' his Cane corso in busy public places whilst the dog is wearing an electric and a prong collar.
He appears to have an enormous ego that means ita ok for him to do all the things he says others shouldn't...
He is awful, I had to block him on FB as his horrible videos kept appearing. Just another shock jock :confused:
 

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Passed by an off-white off-lead unmuzzled and BIG bully locally tonight. I stared hard at the owner so as not to have any chance of looking at the dog. I hope I don't meet it ever again. I'm going to look up whether there is a dog warden I can report this to.
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Passed by an off-white off-lead unmuzzled and BIG bully locally tonight. I stared hard at the owner so as not to have any chance of looking at the dog. I hope I don't meet it ever again. I'm going to look up whether there is a dog warden I can report this to.
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Just report it to the police.
 

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Just report it to the police.

I don't see the point. They can't sit watching the country bridleway I was walking on until it comes back. I haven't a clue where the owner lives, I've walked that path many times before at the same time of day and never seen it before. If I see it around again and can get some idea where they can find it, I will.
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Both bullies again, although that's (the Maltby one) the first time I've seen a report of a pocket bully causing serious injuries. It's hardly a surprise though as it's unlikely to have a vastly different temperament to an XLB, just the smaller size means it has less opportunity to cause as serious damage.

At least it's a serious lack of judgement by the parents, at worst it's neglect. I do wonder if the families in instances like that get referred to children's services due to safeguarding concerns.

I think there have been other stories of small bullies biting children in the face, one outside a shop and another outside a pub.
 

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Not sure if this works but very sensible

I'm on the fence about this guy too. I don't like some of his stuff, but at the end of the day, he does say many things that are true and he has a practical approach at times.

I don't love that his Corso is in an electric collar and a prong collar, but the dog seems content and trained, which is more than what can be said for a majority of other dogs out there.
 

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woman in her 50s has been mauled to death by an XL bully dog in east London, the Met Police has confirmed.

She was found by officers at a house in Cornwall Close, Romford, east London around 13:12 BST on Monday.

The woman was treated by medics from London Ambulance Service, but she was pronounced dead at the scene.

The dogs were registered XL bully dogs, the force said.

They had been were locked inside a room in the house before armed officers arrived.
 
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