Jenko109
Well-Known Member
No.
I don't mean that at all.
He is always visible. It's an open common. I mean that if he can be heard before he can be seen then the rabbits can go to ground. At 5am, they are all just milling about in the open.
Another fatal dog attack
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No.
I don't mean that at all.
He is always visible. It's an open common. I mean that if he can be heard before he can be seen then the rabbits can go to ground. At 5am, they are all just milling about in the open.
DabDab
Ah mud, splendid
We dont have a path. We are on an open common.
My dogs dont hassle the cows or the ponies or the donkeys, including when they have a calf or foal at foot. Or the pigs when they're about. All of which are turned out on the common.
I am however quite happy for them to try and catch a rabbit. Nothing better than a dog with a fresh rabbit for his breakfast
**runs for cover**
I was referring to the gentleman and his dog that I encountered in the forest recently. That dog had literally run past a sensitive ecosystem sign as it crashed onto the path in front of me, it ran at me and would have caused issue for a horse more nervy than mine, and the owner explicitly stated that it chases deer
My dogs catch the odd rabbit or squirrel at home on my property, but out in the forest I find leads are marvellous things
Cortez
Tough but Fair
On the contrary, they only wear collars when out, or when I need to know where they are (puppy), so when they hear the collars come off the peg they go absolutely mad because they know they are going for a walk. Like people, they tune out the tinkling after a few minutes. I use hawk bells (I used to fly falcons a very long time ago) and I love the sound.
CorvusCorax
later_today_at_x
Cortez
Tough but Fair
Why not, I don't appear to be using it much these days......Can I borrow your brain, please
CorvusCorax
later_today_at_x
Someone gave me some bells to string across the top of the jump on fishing line (the idea was if the dog touched the jump, the bells would jangle = no reward, no jangle meant jumping clear = reward) and I kept them in the central console of my car, the noise when I cornered or braked drove me absolutely nuts. I appreciate that this may be a Me Problem/reverse Pavlov, etc etc etc...
marmalade76
Well-Known Member
I could not swear to it, but is it not a requirement for dogs to wear collars when out & about? And wearing a collar would also help in certain situations, like the poor cyclist who was attacked by the Malis, they'd have been removed from him considerably quicker had they had collars on. Sorry, but I'd rather the (let's face it, small) risk of strangulation than the risk that the dog be less controllable.
conniegirl
Well-Known Member
yes in public dogs legally have to have a collar or harness on with tags identifying owner, address and phone number.
bonny
Well-Known Member
Has anyone ever heard of an owner being prosecuted for not having a collar etc on their dog ? Just wondering ….
Clodagh
Playing chess with pigeons
No. I actually only own one collar.
splashgirl45
Lurcher lover
Half of the people who own dogs don’t seem to know what is required. My 3 all wear collars with my name and address and phone numbers on and I’ve got breakaway collars for indoors when on holiday or if they go to my friends for the day. Indoor at home they don’t wear anything.
Tiddlypom
Carries on creakily
What happens if you have an accident or medical episode when you are out walking in public with collarless dogs?
They might have perfect recall with their owner(s), but if owner is incapacitated for any reason it would make it much harder for well meaning randomers to safely secure them.
Speaking as someone who has collected various frightened stray dogs off the roads in the past. It’s a lot easier if they are wearing a collar.
They might have perfect recall with their owner(s), but if owner is incapacitated for any reason it would make it much harder for well meaning randomers to safely secure them.
Speaking as someone who has collected various frightened stray dogs off the roads in the past. It’s a lot easier if they are wearing a collar.
Goldenstar
Well-Known Member
My dogs wear Collars they have a breakaway type collars for every day and old breakaway collar for swimming tips .
They have dress collars for smart wear .
Each has a harness which we use for going on boats .
They have dress collars for smart wear .
Each has a harness which we use for going on boats .
skinnydipper
Well-Known Member
Would you care to read my post again
My dogs have always worn collars or harnesses with tags when not at home. At home always "naked".
Read this thread:
Collars, a very scary incident.
Our 2 both wear collars with their name tags on, have them on 24/7 unless theyre being washed. Both were just having a mad 10 minutes, as they do all the time. Luna started screaming, and at first OH thought Aled had hold of her and was refusing to let go. We both jumped in, and straight...
forums.horseandhound.co.uk
and Google collar strangulation.
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CorvusCorax
later_today_at_x
Mine only wear collars when out for a walk.
The young one has a very close fitting Oh Shit slip collar for grabbing as she is a wriggly racing snake.
The young one has a very close fitting Oh Shit slip collar for grabbing as she is a wriggly racing snake.
skinnydipper
Well-Known Member
For people that can't be ar$ed, I've googled for you.
Essential Tips for Dog Collar Safety: Protecting Your Pet from Accidents - Petful
Discover vital dog collar safety tips to prevent accidents and protect your pet. Learn how to choose the safest collars and practices.
www.petful.com
Dog Owner Posts Tragic Story About the Secret Dangers of Dog Collars, Goes Viral
Collar strangulation kills or injures upwards of 26,000 dogs a year.
bestlifeonline.com
The Hidden Danger Behind Dog Collars - Animal Behavior College
Dog strangulation by collar is not just an unlikely fear. Read this article now to learn the hidden danger behind dog collars.
www.animalbehaviorcollege.com
Vet warning on dog collars after pup's near death experience
They say strangulation is a hidden danger that many pet owners don’t know about when allowing their pets to play while wearing collars
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skinnydipper
Well-Known Member
Collar Entrapment, Strangulation and CPCR Techniques Article
This article was the winner of the 2013 Dog Writer's Association of America's Maxwell Medallion , as well as the 2013 AKC's Club Publication Excellence Award .
www.luvakis.com
AmyMay
Situation normal
So the take home from the later part of this thread, is that most contributors are just plain stupid or ignorant or both 
DressageCob
Well-Known Member
My old dog used to wear a collar 24/7 other than when he was having a bath. I was ignorant. In my defence I was 12 when we got him, he was my family's first dog and we were very worried about him escaping. He was a lakeland terrier and took any chance he got! We were lucky never to have a collar-related incident, but it was probably mainly avoided by the fact he wasn't crated and didn't have any doggy friends.
Now, I know better. My dog wears a collar with a tag and a harness (also with a tag) because he has a very baggy neck and the only way a collar wouldn't risk falling is by tightening it until it pinched. A couple of his collars have his details embroidered or engraved on the buckle. He has a leather "necklace" with a tag on as well, which I used to put on when he went in the garden before I got better fencing. Now he is naked at home and in the garden.
I see a lot of dogs, particularly gun dogs, walked with no collar and just attached to a slip lead occasionally when needed. That is illegal, but it is pretty common.
I have seen prosecutions for not having a tag on, but they have been linked to prosecutions for dogs dangerously out of control in a public place, rather than just a person walking down the street and the police officer spots that it is tag-less.
Now, I know better. My dog wears a collar with a tag and a harness (also with a tag) because he has a very baggy neck and the only way a collar wouldn't risk falling is by tightening it until it pinched. A couple of his collars have his details embroidered or engraved on the buckle. He has a leather "necklace" with a tag on as well, which I used to put on when he went in the garden before I got better fencing. Now he is naked at home and in the garden.
I see a lot of dogs, particularly gun dogs, walked with no collar and just attached to a slip lead occasionally when needed. That is illegal, but it is pretty common.
I have seen prosecutions for not having a tag on, but they have been linked to prosecutions for dogs dangerously out of control in a public place, rather than just a person walking down the street and the police officer spots that it is tag-less.
Clodagh
Playing chess with pigeons
I specifically do not want to enable anyone random to handle my dogs. If I have a heart attack or get run over by a cow I expect they’d go home.
They don’t wear them for training or working and the chances of a cataclysmic event when I’m out for a stroll is probably not high.
TheresaW
Well-Known Member
Toby would go off with anyone. He has no shame
. I think Bo would stick with me until I was found. 2 are always attached via a belt anyway.
Tiddlypom
Carries on creakily
Ok, but apart from an exemption when they are working you are breaking the law. As I said, a collar make saving the dogs I've found panicking and running along the road easier to rescue
.This is quite separate to the advice to removing a collar when at home in case the dog gets hooked up.
Do dogs need to wear a collar in public?
Should dogs wear a collar in public? Find out the current legal requirements regarding collars and dog tags and avoid a possible penalty.
Can I get fined if my dog isn’t wearing a collar?
Yes. If your dog isn’t wearing a collar, or their collar doesn’t include the relevant information, you can be subject to an unlimited fine, or even jail. In reality, however, most breaches of the law are unlikely to incur such harsh penalties. Remember, it’s not enough to have your dog’s name and your phone number on their collar – it must include your name and address, too.Many dog owners prefer to use a harness when walking their dog, rather than using a dog collar and lead. Even if you’ve attached an ID tag to your dog’s harness, this doesn’t exempt your dog from needing to wear a collar with your identifying information on it as well.
Once you’re home, you can remove your dog’s collar if you prefer. Just make sure your home and garden are secure and your dog can’t gain access to any public spaces. Before you head outside again, always put your dog’s collar back on.
Clodagh
Playing chess with pigeons
Honestly I’ll take my chances with the police. By the time they’d picked up all the free range, naked collies their van would be full.Ok, but apart from an exemption when they are working you are breaking the law. As I said, a collar make saving the dogs I've found panicking and running along the road easier to rescue
This is quite separate to the advice to removing a collar when at home in case the dog gets hooked up.
Do dogs need to wear a collar in public?
Should dogs wear a collar in public? Find out the current legal requirements regarding collars and dog tags and avoid a possible penalty.www.petplan.co.uk
Can I get fined if my dog isn’t wearing a collar?
Yes. If your dog isn’t wearing a collar, or their collar doesn’t include the relevant information, you can be subject to an unlimited fine, or even jail. In reality, however, most breaches of the law are unlikely to incur such harsh penalties. Remember, it’s not enough to have your dog’s name and your phone number on their collar – it must include your name and address, too.
Many dog owners prefer to use a harness when walking their dog, rather than using a dog collar and lead. Even if you’ve attached an ID tag to your dog’s harness, this doesn’t exempt your dog from needing to wear a collar with your identifying information on it as well.
Once you’re home, you can remove your dog’s collar if you prefer. Just make sure your home and garden are secure and your dog can’t gain access to any public spaces. Before you head outside again, always put your dog’s collar back on.
Tiddlypom
Carries on creakily
I'm genuinely bemused why anyone would be so averse to simply putting on a collar and id tag on their dog in public, as the law demands.
Oh well.
Oh well.
conniegirl
Well-Known Member
Because hypocrisy is rife and the law only applies to them if they agree with the law but applies to us plebs all the time
Clodagh
Playing chess with pigeons
I walk on private land, with permission. I do cross a no access lane which isn’t mine from my house to the land. I live in the middle of nowhere. I never see a soul bar two local farmers with their packs of dogs. I’m not sure why mine need collars? If I walked in a park I agree it would be different and in those days my dogs did.
I know the law says but honestly I inconvenience no one.
Clodagh
Playing chess with pigeons
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Goldenstar
Well-Known Member
The biggest issue that the drunk lady in the park had getting back her loose dog was it had no collar on,well that and the Drink .
I get the thing about collars and dogs working in undergrowth and I also would never ever have a dog off lead in a harness in anything other than a open field .
But collars with break open catches do not present a risk to dogs doing normal dog stuff .
I do take them off when they once they settled in house at night .
The law requires a collar in public and a tag .
I get the thing about collars and dogs working in undergrowth and I also would never ever have a dog off lead in a harness in anything other than a open field .
But collars with break open catches do not present a risk to dogs doing normal dog stuff .
I do take them off when they once they settled in house at night .
The law requires a collar in public and a tag .
Sandstone1
Well-Known Member
Because some people think the law does not apply to them. Any dog can get spooked by something and run off, it does not matter how well trained they are or if you walk on private land. They can run and end up on a road. The amount of posts on facebook about lost and found dogs without collars and tags is amazing. How hard is it to put a collar and tag on when you go out?
Tiddlypom
Carries on creakily
Indeed it does.
Judging by the earlier post and who liked it, I seem to have flushed out a few regular and more experienced posters on here who think that the law does not apply to them.
Disappointing, sigh. This should be in 'irresponsible owners' not 'another fatal dog attack'
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