Facebook - Horse shot by livery owner

[pony_palace]

I had a conversation with the centre's owner once and he said that he was very cautious about taking on grass liveries as horse often get dumped and they are left to deal with them. I'm not saying what he did was right but I do believe that the amount owed was more than £30. In the report it says locals 'suggested' it was that amount. Also, the loaner is irresponsible for not paying the amount for the horse. Obviously I don't know the full details so I'm not going to make assumptions and I will continue to use their services, despite this happening. I'm sorry for the owner as it is an awful thing to happen whatever the circumstances, nobody wants to lose their horse

 

[HBB]

The owner of the horse has already commented on this thread. She is heart broken and has asked for the speculation to stop :frown3:

 

[pony_palace]

The owner of the horse has already commented on this thread. She is heart broken and has asked for the speculation to stop :frown3:

I apologise, I must have missed her comment

 

[rowan666]

I had a conversation with the centre's owner once and he said that he was very cautious about taking on grass liveries as horse often get dumped and they are left to deal with them. I'm not saying what he did was right but I do believe that the amount owed was more than £30. In the report it says locals 'suggested' it was that amount. Also, the owner is irresponsible for not paying the amount for the horse. Obviously I don't know the full details so I'm not going to make assumptions and I will continue to use their services, despite this happening. I'm sorry for the loaner as it is an awful thing to happen whatever the circumstances, nobody wants to lose their horse

How is it the owners fault if she had no idea what was going on! Most loan contracts state that its responsibility of loaner to pay for the keep but im sure in this case owner would have not quibbled over £30 to save her horse being slaughtered! Ive never known any owner to ring loaner and YO every wk jst to check livery has been paid

 

[cronkmooar]

I had a conversation with the centre's owner once and he said that he was very cautious about taking on grass liveries as horse often get dumped and they are left to deal with them. I'm not saying what he did was right but I do believe that the amount owed was more than £30. In the report it says locals 'suggested' it was that amount. Also, the owner is irresponsible for not paying the amount for the horse. Obviously I don't know the full details so I'm not going to make assumptions and I will continue to use their services, despite this happening. I'm sorry for the loaner as it is an awful thing to happen whatever the circumstances, nobody wants to lose their horse

That was a quick edit ................. had me thrown there for a second, your original post was:

"I had a conversation with the centre's owner once and he said that he was very cautious about taking on grass liveries as horse often get dumped and they are left to deal with them. I'm not saying what he did was right but I do believe that the amount owed was more than £30. In the report it says locals 'suggested' it was that amount. Also, the owner is irresponsible for not paying the amount for the horse. Obviously I don't know the full details so I'm not going to make assumptions and I will continue to use their services, despite this happening."

I think the amount owed is pretty irrelevant and it would appear the horse was on loan so therefore not the owners debt.

In any event without doubt a horse was shot, driven through a village in the bucket of a JCB and dumped in someone's garden.

What possible justification is there for that?????

Best not p**s the man off when you are using those facilities now

 

[Spring Feather]

It certainly isn't the dump I was expecting to be perfectly honest. It looks like a very nice place indeed. Still seems a very strange (and sad) turn of events but it does make you wonder.

 

[pony_palace]

sorry, I meant loaner not owner!

 

[pony_palace]

If you read it, I said i wasn't saying what he did was right!

 

[bakewell]

If you read it, I said i wasn't saying what he did was right!

Then vote with your feet and your wallet as you are in position to do so rather than with internet chat.

 

[cronkmooar]

If you read it, I said i wasn't saying what he did was right!

I never said you did.

You did however state that you were not making assumptions and would continue to use their services despite this happening, so I pointed out the undisputable facts to you.

How would you feel if this was your horse?

 

[Hedgewitch13]

No but you are standing by them by continuing to use their 'services'. Disgraceful

 

[cronkmooar]

If you read it, I said i wasn't saying what he did was right!

Just watch this one - new member - argumentative and inflammatory posts

Just saying ........

 

[Illusion100]

Is there a petition I can sign and share? This is outrageous

http://www.gopetition.com/petitions/boycott-the-gg-center.html

 

[pony_palace]

I never said you did.

You did however state that you were not making assumptions and would continue to use their services despite this happening, so I pointed out the undisputable facts to you.

How would you feel if this was your horse?

Saying I would continue to use their services is not justifying it. I can't explain how awful I would feel if it my horse. I made a mistake by saying owner instead of loaner, I apologise.b

 

[PollyP99]

No but you are standing by them by continuing to use their 'services'. Disgraceful

This^^^

How could anyone impartial take this view, maybe not impartial at all!

 

[bakewell]

Saying I would continue to use their services is not justifying it.

Yeah, actually, it is.

 

[pony_palace]

Just watch this one - new member - argumentative and inflammatory posts

Just saying ........

Just saying but I haven't commented on a lot of threads I felt like commenting on, but on this one I just felt that I wanted to show the two sides to the incident. You chose to react to it.

 

[Grumpy Herbert]

The man has admitted that he had the horse shot and dumped in the garden.

My view is that I would under NO circumstances wish to do business with such a person, EVER. The more the details of this horrific incident are publicised, the less likely it is that any reasonable person will want to do business with him, and hopefully his business will go down the pan, taking him with it.

In my opinion any person who continues to use the yard's facilities or put business his way, in knowledge of the fact he has done such a wicked act, is effectively condoning this completely outrageous behaviour.

 

[PollyP99]

Just saying but I haven't commented on a lot of threads I felt like commenting on, but on this one I just felt that I wanted to show the two sides to the incident. You chose to react to it.

Two sides of the incident, seriously , an unpaid bill results in a murdered and dumped horse, easy to see that both sides need representing

 

[Arzada]

Just saying but I haven't commented on a lot of threads I felt like commenting on, but on this one I just felt that I wanted to show the two sides to the incident. You chose to react to it.

There are three sides to this and the entirely blameless, innocent Kit paid the price.

 

[ladyt25]

I have used the facilities here several times over the years and it's always been pleasant. Pony clubs often hire the facilities for training and camps I believe as well. I certainly would not consider giving any money to anywhere where they consider this behaviour acceptable over non-payment of a debt! Selling a horsr to cover unpaid livery debts is one thing but this? Just appalling.
Dread to think what will happen to the poor RSPCA'S equines now as not good to be associated with this.

 

[georgiegirl]

Not been there in years but I wouldn't be fooled by the shiny lovely looking internet pictures.

There are a couple of reasons I don't use the facilities here as it is unfit for what I want to do. Now sadly there is another reason I won't be going.

There are many aspects of the story we surely don't know about but all I do know is a poor defenceless animal has lost it's life and then been dumped. Shocked and disgusted.

I now worry what will happen to all the poor RSPCA horses there....

 

[cronkmooar]

Just saying but I haven't commented on a lot of threads I felt like commenting on, but on this one I just felt that I wanted to show the two sides to the incident. You chose to react to it.

There has been no reaction by me, as is clear from the above posts.

Your stance, however, is most unsavoury.

 

[cptrayes]

I utterly condemn the dumping of the horse in the garden. But before condemning shooting the horse I would want to know how old it was, whether it was in good health, and when the loaner last went to see it.

I could not condemn any livery owner for having a sick and/or old horse that had been abandoned at his premises put down.

It is very unfortunate that she did not own the horse, but again I would want to know whether the livery owner knew that before making a judgement on his actions.

 

[Liz H]

I had a conversation with the centre's owner once and he said that he was very cautious about taking on grass liveries as horse often get dumped and they are left to deal with them. I'm not saying what he did was right but I do believe that the amount owed was more than £30. In the report it says locals 'suggested' it was that amount. Also, the loaner is irresponsible for not paying the amount for the horse. Obviously I don't know the full details so I'm not going to make assumptions and I will continue to use their services, despite this happening. I'm sorry for the owner as it is an awful thing to happen whatever the circumstances, nobody wants to lose their horse

I don't give a damn if the place is gold plated and covered in F.......fairy dust, I cannot understand why anyone who cares about animals could carry on lining the pockets of someone who could be so F......Callous, can you not imagine the terror and horror that poor horse went through at the hands of those ********. I don't give a damn if they owed£3000 YOU DONT SHOOT THE HORSE! I would politely ask you to rethink your view of their facilities.....

 

[pony_palace]

I utterly condemn the dumping of the horse in the garden. But before condemning shooting the horse I would want to know how old it was, whether it was in good health, and when the loaner last went to see it.

I could not condemn any livery owner for having a sick and/or old horse that had been abandoned at his premises put down.

It is very unfortunate that she did not own the horse, but again I would want to know whether the livery owner knew that before making a judgement on his actions.

agreed!

 

[Judgemental]

Just what is going on in Yorkshire!

This is simply appalling

Does anybody who posts on this Forum know the outfit or indeed keep their horse at the yard?
The following from The Daily Mail

"Equestrian centre shoot dead perfectly healthy seven-year-old ex-racehorse and dump the body on owner's front garden over unpaid bill of £30

Kit was being kept in a DIY livery field owned by GG Centre in Raskelf, Yorks
Rider Beckie Warner, who leased the horse, had not paid £10 weekly charge
She told the centre she planned on paying the fee at the end of the month
Owner told Ms Warner, 26, that Kit would be tied to a tree if she didn't pay
An hour later, Kit was left in her garden, dying of a single gunshot wound
Owner of GG Centre claims they could not get horse safely into a box
So it was 'put down humanely' by a licensed specialist in the field, he said
RSPCA said horse was physically healthy and was killed illegally with pistol
Police arrested two men - aged 36 and 53 - on suspicion of criminal damage
Ms Warner: 'I'm distressed how somebody could put a bullet in its head for just £30"'


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...er-s-garden-unpaid-bill-30.html#ixzz3GKgqDkfy
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[cronkmooar]

I utterly condemn the dumping of the horse in the garden. But before condemning shooting the horse I would want to know how old it was, whether it was in good health, and when the loaner last went to see it.

I could not condemn any livery owner for having a sick and/or old horse that had been abandoned at his premises put down.

It is very unfortunate that she did not own the horse, but again I would want to know whether the livery owner knew that before making a judgement on his actions.

The girl that loaned the horse has answered your questions further back in the thread. I believe the horse was 7 yrs old and not sick or old.

Please have some respect for her feelings and do not give the poster above any ammunition

 

[cptrayes]

I don't give a damn if the place is gold plated and covered in F.......fairy dust, I cannot understand why anyone who cares about animals could carry on lining the pockets of someone who could be so F......Callous, can you not imagine the terror and horror that poor horse went through at the hands of those ********. I don't give a damn if they owed£3000 YOU DONT SHOOT THE HORSE! I would politely ask you to rethink your view of their facilities.....

There is no suggestion that the horse suffered in being put down at all. I have had four horses shot. It was quiet, quick, painless and very stress free each time.

 

[cronkmooar]

There is no suggestion that the horse suffered in being put down at all. .

Actually, there is