Indigo Irish Draughts - please read, a heads up.

[windswoo]

Does anyone know if there is a specialist firm which help with wills involving animals (I know you can have a free will writing service with the RSPCA, but not sure if they offer legal advice for how to write it?)- if not they'd make a fortune.
I'd pay more to know my wishes are being followed exactly and not someone else's interpretation.
EP. We'd be the same with our two girls - it would be best for them to PTS if OH's parents couldn't have them (if we died first)

 

[Cortez]

I wonder how many people commenting have ever had to deal with the sale of 18+ horses in one go? To someone who isn't a horse person and unlikely to understand the finer points of soundness or suitability, it would be almost impossible to implement without the input of a specialist. A horse dealer is precisely the avenue that would be reasonable to employ.

 

[Xmasha]

I wonder how many people commenting have ever had to deal with the sale of 18+ horses in one go? To someone who isn't a horse person and unlikely to understand the finer points of soundness or suitability, it would be almost impossible to implement without the input of a specialist. A horse dealer is precisely the avenue that would be reasonable to employ.

You’re missing the point . Quite a few of the indigo owners were looking to buy these horses . Plus one reputable Irish draught breeder also offered to help rehome them all .

 

[Goldenstar]

It’s incredibly sad .
You need to really be clear what you expect from your executors it’s their job to carry out your wishes not necessarily maximise value .
I don’t of course know the ins and outs but on the face of it the charity has behaved very badly.

 

[Pearlsacarolsinger]

There surely were plenty of 'specialists' on the yard. And, if the horses were to be sold it makes no sense to turn down reasonable offers from knowledgeable people during the period that the estate was paying for their keep.

 

[sky1000]

I think that professional advisers should make efforts to ascertain the priorities of their clients.
I also think the letter shown above should have given the executor pause for thought, and the idea that independent equine advice should be sought, at the very least.

 

[Goldenstar]

World horse welfare would not have behaved like this .

 

[Pearlsacarolsinger]

It’s incredibly sad .
You need to really be clear what you expect from your executors it’s their job to carry out your wishes not necessarily maximise value .
I don’t of course know the ins and outs but on the face of it the charity has behaved very badly.

And the charity, as a beneficiary should not have been involved in decision making about the fate of the animals, as soon as they had declared themselves unable to take them.

 

[AmyMay]

And the charity, as a beneficiary should not have been involved in decision making about the fate of the animals, as soon as they had declared themselves unable to take them.

The executors have stated that the charity were not involved.

 

[Cortez]

You’re missing the point . Quite a few of the indigo owners were looking to buy these horses . Plus one reputable Irish draught breeder also offered to help rehome them all .

The finer details of the situation are impossible (or inappropriate) for us to know, but perhaps rehoming was not the best avenue to take. Who knows? Stud dispersal sales are never happy affairs but perhaps they are the best way to go about things. When I stopped breeding I sold everything at a big private sale, not all horses went where I would have preferred, but it was done. Unsaleable horses were mostly put down, one was gifted.

 

[Rupert2021]

The finer details of the situation are impossible (or inappropriate) for us to know, but perhaps rehoming was not the best avenue to take. Who knows? Stud dispersal sales are never happy affairs but perhaps they are the best way to go about things. When I stopped breeding I sold everything at a big private sale, not all horses went where I would have preferred, but it was done.

The executors have stated that the charity were not involved.

They shouldn’t have been sold.. if they wanted to get rid they should have been PTS or at least be rehomed to Bruce thorpely which the charity got him involved in the first instance..

 

[Xmasha]

The finer details of the situation are impossible (or inappropriate) for us to know, but perhaps rehoming was not the best avenue to take. Who knows? Stud dispersal sales are never happy affairs but perhaps they are the best way to go about things. When I stopped breeding I sold everything at a big private sale, not all horses went where I would have preferred, but it was done. Unsaleable horses were mostly put down, one was gifted.

Rehoming with ‘Janet approved owners’ Who were willing to pay is a far better deal than selling to bin end dealers . Those not saleable with issues etc should have been PTS .

 

[Indefatigable]

Does anyone know what happened to Canda Rose? She was what you might call 'a character'. Janet and all her staff were one of a kind. A dying breed

 

[Xmasha]

Does anyone know what happened to Canda Rose? She was what you might call 'a character'. Janet and all her staff were one of a kind. A dying breed

She was sold before Janet passed . But I’ve seen her back up for sale in the last few days

 

[Cortez]

Rehoming with ‘Janet approved owners’ Who were willing to pay is a far better deal than selling to bin end dealers . Those not saleable with issues etc should have been PTS .

Did they all go to "bin end dealers"? How many had issues that precluded their sale as riding or breeding animals? There is too much that isn't known (or frankly any of our business). I don't know that the poor old executor is really to blame, without knowing the full background.

 

[Rupert2021]

Does anyone know what happened to Canda Rose? She was what you might call 'a character'. Janet and all her staff were one of a kind. A dying breed

She currently for sale through a private seller

 

[Rupert2021]

Did they all go to "bin end dealers"? How many had issues that precluded their sale as riding or breeding animals? There is too much that isn't known (or frankly any of our business). I don't know that the poor old executor is really to blame, without knowing the full background.

18 of them did only 2 was able to be ridden as was unbroken

 

[Cortez]

18 of them did only 2 was able to be ridden as was unbroken

So 16 youngstock?

 

[Rupert2021]

So 16 youngstock?

No only 2 Youngstock rest were elderly or had health issues

 

[Indefatigable]

She currently for sale through a private seller

I'm sure there's someone out there for her. It's the quirky ones that get the fluffy end of the lolly pop

 

[Cortez]

No only 2 Youngstock rest were elderly or had health issues

Hmm, I wonder what people would be saying if 16 horses were put down by an evil executor/charity. Giving horses away, or selling for a pittance, is rarely a good or kind idea.

 

[Rupert2021]

Hmm, I wonder what people would be saying if 16 horses were put down by an evil executor/charity. Giving horses away, or selling for a pittance, is rarely a good or kind idea.

But they could of been put down or rehomed by the staff?

 

[AmyMay]

Hmm, I wonder what people would be saying if 16 horses were put down by an evil executor/charity. Giving horses away, or selling for a pittance, is rarely a good or kind idea.

There was actually a request for that to happen by a group of concerned IID owners. It was felt preferable for the hunt to dispatch them at home to ending up - well, where they are now.

 

[Tiddlypom]

Who has suggested selling good horses for a pittance? People were ready to pay the proper price, and to PTS the old and infirm.

I was hoping NOT to see 18 year old Indigo Reflection's name on the list of the 18 sent off to the dealer, I'd far rather she had been PTS at the stud than that. Same with Buck, who is being marketed as a steady neddy, which he is not.

 

[paddy555]

No only 2 Youngstock rest were elderly or had health issues

then I'm afraid that does beg the question as to why Janet herself didn't leave instructions for them to be PTS.

 

[Xmasha]

then I'm afraid that does beg the question as to why Janet herself didn't leave instructions for them to be PTS.

From what I’ve gathered she hadnt completely finalised the details and didn’t expect to die so soon.

 

[paddy555]

From what I’ve gathered she hadnt completely finalised the details and didn’t expect to die so soon.

which simply leaves the executor in a very difficult position of knowing what to do and the executor is left to make decisions and take responsibility for something she probably has little idea of.

 

[Rupert2021]

then I'm afraid that does beg the question as to why Janet herself didn't leave instructions for them to be PTS.

Because she wanted it to be turned into her own charity.
Can I just clarify with the comments above that I totally agree with the comments above to ensure you have a solid will in place. Having lived through this for nearly two years it has quite simply been the most stressful time of my life, and I’m sure the others who has been through it with me can agree too.
It’s not only for your animals but for your friends and family too, to have that easier transition.
Janet wasn’t ready to die, and I will hold my hands up and say she thought she was in invincible it was only the week before she passed I had to chase her tractor down a hill which she forgot to leave the handbrake on

 

[AmyMay]

which simply leaves the executor in a very difficult position of knowing what to do and the executor is left to make decisions and take responsibility for something she probably has little idea of.

And hopefully they will take responsibility for what seems to have been very poorly handled.

 

[Pearlsacarolsinger]

then I'm afraid that does beg the question as to why Janet herself didn't leave instructions for them to be PTS.

She seems to have thought that they would be used by the charity for PTSD work, which is normally in-hand