Goldenstar
Well-Known Member
Mrs May is no fool and she will have an eye to her electorate putting vat on domestic fuel to zero in Scotland is as likely as NS joined UKIP .
Mrs May is no fool and she will have an eye to her electorate putting vat on domestic fuel to zero in Scotland is as likely as NS joined UKIP .
…….. . What I am saying is that VAT and many other taxes are DICTATED (set in stone) by Brussels and …….. .
The comments from the Foreign Office come after the First Minister was left embarrassed after it was revealed her recent attempts to chair a meeting of EU consuls in Edinburgh was a shambles.
Ms Sturgeon and ministers Angela Constance and Fiona Hyslop in the Scottish Government apparently posed for photos during their summit of EU consuls following the allegedly 'high level' talks.
But it was later revealed that the people invited had little power and weren't diplomats but individuals with honorary titles.
Indeed one of those was in fact a rat catcher from the town of Paisley, Renfrewshire situated 11 miles outside Glasgow.
The rat catcher, aka Scottish man Iain Lawson, was the 'honorary consul' for Estonia who became fascinated with the country when he visited with the Tartan Army two decades ago
This was a meeting of EU consuls general on July 5 to discuss how to reassure EU citizens living in Scotland that they are welcome in the country.
The meeting included some honorary consuls as well as several with official functions. Honorary consuls - like Mr Lawson - have day jobs.
I'm afraid I can't see how the Scottish Government's attempts to reassure EU nationals currently living, working and studying in Scotland that they will be welcome to remain in the country is posturing or "making Scotland look very foolish."
I do, however, believe that Mrs May's position of "I may or may not decide to kick all EU nationals out of the UK" is making Mrs May look very foolish.
Sturgeon's EU slum: Squalor, filth and sex crime in constituency branded SHAME OF SCOTLAND
FIRST Minister of Scotland Nicola Sturgeon’s very own constituency has become a haven for illegal immigration and organised crime where women cannot walk the streets, it has been claimed.
By SIOBHAN MCFADYEN
PUBLISHED: 13:59, Sun, Aug 21, 2016 | UPDATED: 14:45, Sun, Aug 21, 2016
http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/70...ime-in-constituency-branded-shame-of-Scotland
More Sturgeon bashing baloney from the Daily Express. Starting to get really boring, Judgemental.
http://www.eveningtimes.co.uk/news/...in__Here_s_20_things_to_love_about_Govanhill/
http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/watch-govanhill-primary-pupils-hit-7949209
http://www.eveningtimes.co.uk/news/14325355.Govanhill_cops___We_will_overturn_the_fear_of_crime_/
Yes it will get even more boring, the lady cannot even run her own constituency
When this sort of person will not publish their expenses it speaks volumes as to their integrity.
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She has travelled to Germany and Brussels to hold talks with EU leaders at the expense of the British public.
She has also spent time in London trying to rally support as well as holding talks in Edinburgh at a cost to the taxpayer.
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Whilst I'm no more a fan of the lady in question than you are JM, a part of her duties are to represent Scotland and the SNP. Just as she should demonstrate a responsibility for the funding which she uses, to suggest that she should be limited in her legitimate travel expenses cannot be right.
So; Just why the SNP and their leader refuse to publish their expenses, fails to demonstrate a sense of transparency I agree, but to refuse her the right to explore her ambitions, is equally wrong. To date, it seems, her overtures to Brussels have met with a wall, so perhaps she's beginning to see the futility of her grand and master plan. Dunno, but I still can't stand the woman!
Alec.
Why would Scottish independence terrify us south of the border. I along with several others say bring it on and then we can stop subsidising all the extras they get that are not available this side of the border . A report out last week showed again that the economy in Scotland is not sustainable as it is without assistance from south of the border.
If you think for one second that Scotland is subsidised by England then you are the one that needs to, as you politely put it, "get real" . Repeat a lie often enough and idiots will buy it indeed. This isn't my creation but I find it handy to provide as a point of education to people who perpetuate this myth.
The Scottish subsidy myth
1979 to 1997 the lifetime of the Tory governments of Thatcher and Major - a table question in parliament revealed during this period Scotland gave £27bn more than was received.
http://www.heraldscotland.com/sport/...eived-1.406190
That's a lot of money Scotland lost. Add to this Scotland having to pay interest on loans and debts it didn't need bumps the figure even higher.
So what about more recent times
The Institute of Fiscal Studies in 2013 provided a breakdown of taxes from each of the 4 parts of the UK and found Scots pay more taxes per head than the other 3 countries.
http://www.ifs.org.uk/publications/6881
What is difficult to find is a comparative breakdown of taxes and revenues by region but The Centre for Economics and Business Research have managed top do this and state state Scotland receives no net subsidy
http://www.cebr.com/reports/how-mone...idises-others/
Now The Daily Mail ceased on the figures usefully broken down in the following link to highlight what London pays but what is clear is Scotland is not a subsidised region, in fact, of the 13 regions (including 9 from England) Scotland is only one of 4 that receives no net subsidy.
So the idea that The English taxpayer subsidises the Scots is a preposterous especially when you consider 6 of the English regions receive subsidies Scotland doesn't.
A word on London revenues. Yes it the economic powerhouse and it revenues provide susbsidies around the UK (excluding Scotland) but the tax and revenue spend doesnt includes big capital project spending which London has received lots of but also its prosperity has it roots in the vast oil revenues in the 1980s at the disposal of the UK government being used not spread the wealth across the UK but create an economic boom in the SE of England. The rest of the UK deserves the payback.
Agree with this. The Scottish had a referendum that the then leader of the SNP said was a once in a generation opportunity. The Scottish decided that they wanted to remain as part of the United Kingdom. We have been joined for over 300 years and have shared a monarch for over 400 years. In some sporting competitions we compete as England Scotland Ireland Wales in others as team GB. We are both politically and in sporting terms stronger as team UK (GB arguably doesn't include NI) and to me its like family, we may bicker a lot between ourselves but ultimately we will stand together against others.
It is a shame that the EU didn't offer genuine reform prior to the vote as I think 90% of the British people would want to stay in a truly reformed EU and this is what the government of the UK offered to Scotland. What I can't understand is that the SNP is fervently pro EU and anti UK when its level of power and choice is greater within the UK than it would be within the EU as an independent nation.
Is that right Lizzie, seriously, do you compete as England Scotland Ireland Wales? Do you know that Ireland left the UK almost 100 years ago, or did you just blank out that unpalatable fact?? Let's face it there's a lot of blanking out going on on this thread so nothing would surprise me![]()
Where are you getting this idea that the EU has more control over people than their own governments. I'm in an EU state and it has very little impact on my life. An independent Scotland is not about to be swallowed up by the dastardly empire you are painting a picture of - it doesn't exist - except of course on the pages of British newspapers!
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Where are you getting this idea that the EU has more control over people than their own governments. I'm in an EU state and it has very little impact on my life. ……..
Your post really surprises me. I can't believe that you believe that the EU doesn't control every aspect of your life. What I can believe though is that you simply don't care, and that is an entirely different matter. Your apparent acceptance of central control with a one-rule-fits-all which has grown beyond belief, may well suit you as a person, but it is stifling the ability of individual nations to show initiative and expand.
Far too many form an opinion around what actually effects them as individuals, rather than considering their nation as a whole and I'm wondering if you're amongst them.
Alec.
Before you jump on your high horse and get sarcastic the answer is yes, because generally speaking when we compete as our separate nations then Northern Ireland & Eire frequently join together to compete as a united Ireland, so what I said does hold true.
Your post really surprises me. I can't believe that you believe that the EU doesn't control every aspect of your life. What I can believe though is that you simply don't care, and that is an entirely different matter. Your apparent acceptance of central control with a one-rule-fits-all which has grown beyond belief, may well suit you as a person, but it is stifling the ability of individual nations to show initiative and expand.
Far too many form an opinion around what actually effects them as individuals, rather than considering their nation as a whole and I'm wondering if you're amongst them.
Alec.