Covid/ isolation/ Livery

I don't like the attitude that some seem to have that "well other people coped why can't you". Its not helpful or constructive.
WFH took a huge tole on some people's mental health, myself included. Not everyone is able to cope feeling isolated and cut off at home.
To simply say everyone should be able to cope just because someone you know seems to have coped fine is terribly unfair and comes across as very naive.
 
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Gallop_Away said:
I don't like the attitude that some seem to have that "well other people coped why can't you". Its not helpful or constructive.
WFH took a huge tole on some people's mental health, myself included. Not everyone is able to cope feeling isolated and cut off at home.
To simply say everyone should be able to cope just because someone you know seems to have coped fine is terribly unfair and comes across as very naive.
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I have colleagues who live alone and for then to have worked remotely for best part of two years has been very difficult mentally. They are grateful to not be out of a job but still , they continue to suffer from the isolation.
I know a little girl who has developed severe anxiety over germs and ill people as she really suffered from the isolation when schools were shut. I have a friend whose business collapsed, leaving her with a lot of debt.
But we should just be ok with all this and accept that this now how we will live for the rest of our lives?

Oh and BTW I couldn't see my elderly parents for 2 years either.

I used to be a real stickler for the rules and give people the evil eyes if they didn't wear a mask or weren't shopping alone - that's when I thought this was temporary and we'd find a way to exist with the virus.
Years down the line it seems we're supposed to accept putting the country on lockdown twice a year instead.
 
Sossigpoker said:
Exactly. Plus this latest variant is a cold. Literally.
I think I had it. I had a cold , perhaps a bit worse than a typical winter cold but not much. I went to the yard every day regardless. Everyone is fine.
Are we really going to lock the country down every year ? I'd get it if people were dying everywhere but they're not. It's a cold.
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It's just a bit of a cold if you are lucky but not every-one is lucky. It is perfectly possible for an otherwise healthy 40 yr old, say, to pass the virus ontotoanother fit, healthy 40yr old who passes it on to other less fit, healthy people untilit ends up with someone with diabetes, who succumbs tobreathing difficulties and has tobe hospitalised,which could end inthe deathof that person. Or it gets passed on toNHS workers, who thencan't look after patients with any health concerns, whether those are psychiatric illnesses or cancer or any other problem.
I can't believe some of the selfish attitudes that I am reading on this thread.:eek:
 
Reading this thread is a bit frightening. So many people are bored of covid (we all are!) and have just stopped trying to avoid or spread it.
This is why there will still be deaths to come. Try telling families who have lost loved family members “it’s just a cold”
My dad has COPD and a actual cold makes him really struggle, I am terrified to think what any form of covid could do to him :(
Ffs people, whilst you may not give a sh** about yourself please think of the millions of my dads that around :(
 
Sossigpoker said:
Exactly. Plus this latest variant is a cold. Literally.
I think I had it. I had a cold , perhaps a bit worse than a typical winter cold but not much. I went to the yard every day regardless. Everyone is fine.
Are we really going to lock the country down every year ? I'd get it if people were dying everywhere but they're not. It's a cold.
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No, it’s not. I’m gobsmacked at your attitude. Do you not comprehend why you are supposed to isolate? Selfish horrible attitude.
 
mariew said:
Good for them. So I take it you mean by that statement everyone can regardless of situation and who they are, age of kids etc?
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I have to say I do think it's a bit mad not to look for a job just in case schools close again, given it's highly unlikely that will happen.
 
I think continuing to go to a yard that you are the sole occupant of when positive (especially one very close to your home) is one thing, and quite a low risk of transmission. But going to a livery yard is just so selfish and potentially harmful to others. If there are multiple other people with horses there, someone/everyone can pull together to look after yours!! I had Covid before Xmas (just like a cold for me) and I paid one of the older teenagers on the yard to look after my horse for 10 days. I missed her terribly and being stuck at home alone was hard going. But I would have never forgiven myself if I had given it to someone and they had been really ill/passed it to vulnerable family members.
 
Sossigpoker said:
I had a cold. Like I have had at least once every winter for the past few decades.
You do realise that this "dreaded " "omicron " variant presents as a cold ?
Are we going to be scared of colds forever? Where do we draw the line ?
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Yes Omicron appears to be mild, BUT their are vast stretches of the world that are not vaccinated. I think I read that in SA where Omicron originated from, only 3% are vaccinated.

As long as covid is in general circulation, variants are likely to arise. Some will be mild like Omicron but some may be far more deadly and evade our vaccines. And variant could be in circulation for 2 or 3 weeks before it is identified.

And that is why we still test and self isolate. To stop potential variants getting in to general circulation before they are identified.

We will need to vigilant for a long time yet I'm afraid. At least until we get the rest of ghe world fully vaccinated.
 
southerncomfort said:
Yes Omicron appears to be mild, BUT their are vast stretches of the world that are not vaccinated. I think I read that in SA where Omicron originated from, only 3% are vaccinated.

As long as covid is in general circulation, variants are likely to arise. Some will be mild like Omicron but some may be far more deadly and evade our vaccines. And variant could be in circulation for 2 or 3 weeks before it is identified.

And that is why we still test and self isolate. To stop potential variants getting in to general circulation before they are identified.

We will need to vigilant for a long time yet I'm afraid. At least until we get the rest of ghe world fully vaccinated.
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That will be forever then
 
Jeez HHO gets more depressing by the day. No wonder we are stuck in this situation when people are unable to follow simple rules or even think past the end of their nose.

I would be able to do my horses at the yard without coming into contact with anyone most days if absolutely necessary, i have a beeper for the elec gate, so contactless, and am on a self contained block, but I'd ask YO to do them if OH couldn't step in. The ones at home can be done by anyone who can fork a bit of hay over and top up the water.
 
Sandstone1 said:
I think in this case the person does not want to pay for full livery for a week.
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Firstly, I think it is wrong for the COVID positive person to continue coming to the yard, and for the YO to allow it.

However, surely on a busy livery yard there must be enough other owners to band together to ensure the horse is looked after so the COVID positive person doesn't have to visit the yard or incur extra costs? Or is there some back story here we are not aware off?
 
TGM said:
Firstly, I think it is wrong for the COVID positive person to continue coming to the yard, and for the YO to allow it.

However, surely on a busy livery yard there must be enough other owners to band together to ensure the horse is looked after so the COVID positive person doesn't have to visit the yard or incur extra costs? Or is there some back story here we are not aware off?
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No no back story that I am aware of. I know this person tested positive and I know that she continued to go to the yard with the yard owners knowledge.
 
Nobody is saying it is easy.

I live on my own in a small flat, have wfh since the start of the pandemic, I work for a medical charity my workload doubled and it has and continues to be very stressful. I am glad I have a secure job and glad I don't work for the NHS as I know the impact this is having on medical professionals whom we all rely on.

My elderly parents live in France I have seen them once since the pandemic but grateful they are still alive after so many elderly died. The risk has not gone it has reduced but this virus has a habit of mutating we cannot be complacent yet.

This virus has had a bad impact on my mental health coming at a difficult time in my life, elderly parents needing more support but unable to visit often, pony injured and on rehab and my work is demanding.

I myself am at risk if I get Covid, I got the letter from my GP saying that I will recieve a PCR test in post to keep at home and to take if I get symptoms as I may be eligible for new treatments. From looking at me you would not be able to see I am at risk I look young for my age 49 and look slim ,.fit and healthy.

The yard is my sanctuary and apart from breaking the law, if someone knowingly was Covid positive was allowed on the yard it would put others like me at risk. Luckily my YO would never allow something like this to happen as she is a responsible person and we have several liveries and a staff member who are vulnerable.

Hopefully if anyone cannot cope with self isolation and really has no other option for help and they have or think they have Covid then they at least wear a mask on the yard and try and avoid peak times to protect others.

These are exceptional times and if someone cannot afford to pay for extra help hopefully other liveries would step up and help especially if they knew that if they didn't that person would have to come to the yard and put them all at risk.

Sossigpoker said:
I have colleagues who live alone and for then to have worked remotely for best part of two years has been very difficult mentally. They are grateful to not be out of a job but still , they continue to suffer from the isolation.
I know a little girl who has developed severe anxiety over germs and ill people as she really suffered from the isolation when schools were shut. I have a friend whose business collapsed, leaving her with a lot of debt.
But we should just be ok with all this and accept that this now how we will live for the rest of our lives?

Oh and BTW I couldn't see my elderly parents for 2 years either.

I used to be a real stickler for the rules and give people the evil eyes if they didn't wear a mask or weren't shopping alone - that's when I thought this was temporary and we'd find a way to exist with the virus.
Years down the line it seems we're supposed to accept putting the country on lockdown twice a year instead.
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Sossigpoker said:
Exactly. Plus this latest variant is a cold. Literally.
I think I had it. I had a cold , perhaps a bit worse than a typical winter cold but not much. I went to the yard every day regardless. Everyone is fine.
Are we really going to lock the country down every year ? I'd get it if people were dying everywhere but they're not. It's a cold.
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FFS my vaccinated, slim, healthy 40 year old cousin had chest pains, body aches, shivers, felt like she been hit by a bus, this was on Christmas day, we're in London so it is probably omicron.
I've never had a cold like that.
 
maisie06 said:
I won't be popular for saying this but surely, 2 years almost in , a huge swathe of the population vaccinated we really need to be living with this and getting on with our lives. My bet is there are huge numbers of people walking around with covid that don't know they even have it anyway. Hands, face space and crack on.
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You should crack on but only within the restrictions as they currently stand.
Anyone going a public yard after testing positive is highly irresponsible and an idiot .

teapot said:
As far as I know the humble common cold doesn't tend to put someone in ICU...
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Well the common cold wold have put my Mum in the ICU if she had not died before the ambulance and I reached her so I a not sure in all cases that’s right.

Why is it so hard for people to be responsible we have been at this for two years now any one with a horse as had ample time to think through all the various possibilities as have yard owners .
 
For those of you to think it is ok to go the yard if you have Covid and think it is a cold read the section read the section on what is happening in the USA to unvaccinated children. This is why we need to be careful with new variants. Adults may be getting cold symptoms if vaccinated but we don't vaccinate the under 12's here.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/l...as-countries-ease-isolation-and-testing-rules
 
Sossigpoker said:
I have colleagues who live alone and for then to have worked remotely for best part of two years has been very difficult mentally. They are grateful to not be out of a job but still , they continue to suffer from the isolation.
I know a little girl who has developed severe anxiety over germs and ill people as she really suffered from the isolation when schools were shut. I have a friend whose business collapsed, leaving her with a lot of debt.
But we should just be ok with all this and accept that this now how we will live for the rest of our lives?

Oh and BTW I couldn't see my elderly parents for 2 years either.

I used to be a real stickler for the rules and give people the evil eyes if they didn't wear a mask or weren't shopping alone - that's when I thought this was temporary and we'd find a way to exist with the virus.
Years down the line it seems we're supposed to accept putting the country on lockdown twice a year instead.
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The country is not in lockdown we are are simply being asked not to go about the place when we have had a positive Covid test .
Work from home where possible and se other not to onerous stuff masks etc .
 
Sossigpoker said:
I've had three vaccines so I'm a bit disappointed that I still had a slightly bad cold. But in hindsight I did start to feel a bit run down just before my booster. So may well have already had it then. Or might just have had a cold. You.literally can't tell the difference.
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And that's why you get a pcr test, then you know if you have a cold and can carry on or if you have covid and have to isolate to protect more vulnerable people!!!
 
Sossigpoker said:
I don't actually know if I've had covid.
The NHS needs to get back to normal, use those Nightingale hospitals if need be, and stop deferring routine treatment.
My friend has had her spinal surgery essentially cancelled. The hospital according to official stats is far from full of covid patients, so it sounds like just a convenient excuse.
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The NHS can’t get back to normal when people are running around spreading covid because they’re too lazy/ignorant to test and isolate.
My brother works on a hospital ward, a few weeks ago they had a major omicron outbreak. On the friday there were 5 patients sick, by Monday all patients had covid and they’d lost 4. This was due to one lady with the sniffles visiting her husband, it wasn’t a cold, it was covid.

Me and my dad now have covid, brother cannot go to work as NHS protocols are different. I have a mild autoimmune disease, otherwise healthy and have had 3 jabs, this variant has knocked me for six. Breathlessness just going to get a drink, no painkillers so far have touched the headache, sleeping for 12 hours a night plus naps. My dad is faring a little better than I am which is surprising as he’s 60 but he’s still not well. And that’s the thing with covid, you can’t tell how it’s going to affect someone, you can’t know you’re only going to pass on a “cold”.
 
And this is just one reason why traipsing about with your untested "cold" is putting pressure on. Do I need to say more?

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Dave's Mam said:
And this is just one reason why traipsing about with your untested "cold" is putting pressure on. Do I need to say more?

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As someone who lives in NI this terrifies me. Saw it earlier and my first thought was should I be riding or doing anything that could land me in hospital. Can't believe we're back here again and from reading certain replies on this thread, I can see how we got here.
 
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